I havent sampled widely but had some 2003 Leroy which was great.
Not being funny, but are all ‘Bourgogne’ really Bourgogne? Some declassified top wines labeled Bourgogne is a priced at a multi of that of a cheaper version from a true Bourgogne vineyard. If that makes sense.
Agree that Leroy is often excellent Bourgogne Rouge, though perhaps atypical for that level! Relatively expensive at half the price ![]()
Mugneret Gibourg’s version comes from old vines and is absolutely top notch (and reasonably good value, too).
At the very top end, Bizot’s Clos du Chapitre is technically a bourgogne rouge but priced like a premier cru. What a wine, though. The 2015 version of this is mind-blowing. Becoming a bit of a cult in France.
A BOURGOGNE (Pinot noir) AOC should usually be no more than 6 - 15 € off domaine - of course depending on the producer …
How much it will be in the final market at retail … well, depends … but usually clearly less than half the price of a good Village wine from the same domaine …
Sure there are exceptions from the stars of the Côte … but in my opinion these wines are rarely worth the money … a fine Village or lesser 1er cru from a good producer (but with less reputation) might be the better choice …
BTW: also Bourgogne Pinot noir needs a certain time in the bottle … if from a fine vintage and good producer.
As soon as a name of a Producer is under the lights of some media, and usually due to the weak quantity available, the prices are going up very fast.
Examples with Duband, Mortet, Arlaud and many more.
But then, it is always possible to find unknown vignerons who are doing quite well… if you take the time to wait some years before a fair opinion on their wines.
Examples with Jean-Michel Guillon (Gevrey-Chambertin) or Borgeot (in Remigny).
Now, with some “big” names, you can be sure they are very cautious to present their basic wines with some qualities.
Example with the premier cru Clos de la Maréchale from Frédéric Mugnier or, with Mortet, the simple Gevrey “Mes 5 Terroirs”.
Well : of course, easier for us living in France and travelling regularly in Burgundy. Well again : we are not able to drive to Napa as you may do, and so, we are simply unable to find in Europe fair Napa wines at good value.
Gerard. You don’t drink rosé or Bourgogne pinot noir) What do you drink as a modest daily wine?
It is hard to pick a $50-60 Bourgogne Rouge as a favorite Bourgogne rouge. To me, a Bourgogne Rouge has to be priced like a Bourgogne Rouge, which in today’s world means $20-30 or less. So, I am going with Hudelot-Noellat and Henri Jouan as my favorites as these are wines one could buy and drink without really thinking about the price. Leroy is not a daily drinker.
Cheapest US price on Wine-Searcher is $60.
James,
I DO drink Bourgogne rouge (and sometimes blanc) as daily drinkers now and then - but much more often chose white Austrian wines and red Rhones (Cotes-du-Rhone) or Languedoc on a daily basis.
We have so many fine white wines (Sauvignon blanc, Morillon (=Chardonnay), Pinot blanc, Riesling, Grüner Veltliner …) here in Austria - and I simply prefer it to almost any Rosé.
Also Austrian reds are really fine, but for red I simply prefer wines from Southern France … with certain exception.
I prefer my red Burgundys with a certain age, so rarely open a good Village, 1er or GC younger than 2003/01 at the moment.
For instance two days ago I opened a Vin de Pays (Vaucluse)/Chateau des Tours (Reynaud) 2006 which was very fine (close to mature, but absolutely no hurry) - and yesterday I drank a Sauvignon blanc / Stefan Potzinger (Styria) 2012 which was all I longed for a good company on the table.
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Costs $30 ex-tax en primeur in Europe, which I find fair for the quality. The vines are getting very old, and yield very low, so they’re thinking about uprooting the vines and planting new ones. It’s an outstanding bottle of wine regardless of appelation. To be drunk young, on the fruit.
Mugneret-Gibourg is my choice when I am not worried about cost. My half case of 2014 was $40/bottle.
If I consider value there are numerous wines from excellent producers around the $30 mark. Hudelot-Noellat is one of my favorites.
I had a 2009 Lignier a while back that was very, very good. Also, I had great luck with a mixed case of 2009/10 Henri Boillot’s bourgogne rouge.
Year in, year out, it would have to be Mugneret Gibourg.
2015 is a lovely year for Bourgogne rouge. One of the best I tasted was from Nicolas Rossignol. I’d also recommend looking at Thierry Glantenay’s. Olivier Merlin down in the Mâconnais also made a superb 2015 Bourgogne rouge which I imagine will be very reasonably priced.
Tasting the 2012 Arlaud Roncevie made me just now buy a mixed case of '13 and '14. Not for the fruit-timid but very good value at ~$25. I suspect prices may be on their way up though.
To the point of the thread, I`m a fan of Leroy Bourgogne Rouge as much as any others.
Chevillon makes a nice Bourgogne rouge priced in the low $20s that I find consistently drinkable.
Chevillon makes a nice Bourgogne rouge priced in the low $20s that I find consistently drinkable.
+1. Was going to add this myself. Also their Passetoutgrain is a lovely wine and is easily $25 or less.
The de Villaine wines are very nice, generally widely available and have a little bit of price range but mostly under $30.
LOVE Bertheau’s Bourgogne! Drank another 14 last night. Has pretty Chambolle red fruits and florals, although on the lighter side, shows great transparency. $25-32.
LOVE Bertheau’s Bourgogne! Drank another 14 last night. Has pretty Chambolle red fruits and florals, although on the lighter side, shows great transparency. $25-32.
YES!
14 Lamarche is also quite pretty.