Which Champagne are you drinking?

NV Pascal Doquet Grand Cru Diapason Le Mesnil-sur-Oger
Disgorged 7/27/21 | ~50% 2014, the rest reserve wines | 6 years on the lees

Lush and complex, with layered notes of baked apple, citrus, almond cream, and fresh bread. The extended lees aging brings a rich, yeasty texture, while a faint oxidative edge adds background spice without overtaking the wine. Beautifully balanced and deeply satisfying. For the quality in the bottle, it was an exceptional value.

This is my fourth Doquet, each from a different cuvée:
– 2004 Champ d’Alouette Le Mesnil-sur-Oger
– 1999 Coeur de Terroir Vertus
– 2009 Coeur de Terroir Vertus
– This NV Diapason

I’ve loved them all. I think I need to buy (and drink) more Doquet.

I think I read a tasting note from @Phil_T_r_o_t_t_e_r where his bottle didn’t show as well. This one showed beautifully from first to last pour.

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Warren, glad to see you’re continuing to post pics.

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I’m lucky to live somewhere so beautiful!

John,
I’ve realized I enjoy the colorful, personal side of wine posts. Photos, stories, moments shared with family and friends. Some might prefer a more clinical approach, but that’s not what draws me here.
Cheers,
Warren

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Extracted from a thread just posted: Another blind wine dinner with the group featuring 2006 Taittinger Comtes, 2020 Buisson-Charles les Charmes de Dessus, 2009 Guigal La Landonne and 2007 Au Bon Climat Isabelle

2006 TAITTINGER COMTES de CHAMPAGNE BLAND de BLANC- served blind to the others so no tell tale bottle shape, foil or glass color could be detected; this bottle was the first of a 6 pack recently purchased and I tried to evaluate it as if I was tasting it blind; it was superlative and mindful of numerous previous bottles of which I’ve had, at times, an embarrassing, but not apologetic amount of; at first, it seemed to be somewhat still in its youthful stage having a medium yellow color and offering bright and cheery notes and a savory taste profile that pleased to the max, but kept expanding as its age allowed it to do; the nose included ginger apple and citrus fruit with a strong suggestion of possessing bright acidity; a spicy accent came in on the palate along with evolving taste treats of honeyed and spiced orange marmalade and lemon meringue and later on, a toasty brioche note that I was looking for and waiting on that took at least 15 minutes to show up and then continued on; it definitely showcased BdB character and qualities and was one of the best bottles of this vintage I’ve had with some time left before reaching its apogee. Yahoo! 5 more before reloading. Ha

Cheers,
Blake

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Blake,
I think you may be one of the few people on the planet who’s opened more of this than I have. I still have a case and 2 mags left. Unless I reload, I’ll never catch up!
Cheers,
Warren

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Some more grist for the mill. @AstridKG and @Cris_Whetstone rallied at Maison in DP last night. The theme for which wines emerged informally. Cris had already picked his 2 wines first from his cellar, and then Astrid and I gave each other a list of 10 wines to pick from. I liked this format as it gave the owner of the bottles some say in what was offered for the tasting, and then let the other 2 people decide what wines they wanted the owner to bring. I’d like to do this format again.

We bagged all 6 (scrambled them up) and then just tasted them together, discussed informally and then pulled the bags and ordered our entrees. Pretty eclectic line-up we put together. Of note–I brought the Laherte Freres home so I can grab another glass tonight and complete the note on that wine.

WINES WITH CRIS AND ASTRID - Maison Cafe in Dana Point, CA (5/22/2025)

Served blind. We knew what the 6 wines were (we pre-selected them prior to arriving).

  • 2020 Laherte Frères Champagne Extra Brut Les Vignes d’Autrefois - France, Champagne
    First go with the 2020. From the oldest Pinot Meunier vines of the domaine, planted roughly 80 years ago. Dosage is around 3 gms. Served blind. Initial whiff I thought of churned butter. Good tension in the wine with lime and the same kind of buttery pastry I found in the aroma. Bread dough and mineral. As the wine settled in the glass, takes on a spicy note, and I scrawled down the impression of 'ginger cookie'. Lightly creamy, citrus, with a clean and fresh profile in balance.
  • 2016 Olivier Horiot Champagne Sève Rosé de Saignée En Barmont Les Riceys - France, Champagne
    Served blind. No dosage with a January 2023 disgorgement of 100% Pinot Noir. Shows an orange color in the glass with some edges of rust. Smells like an aged still red. Blood orange, tangy yogurt, nectarine and rustic red apple. Made me think but I don't know if I want to drink a lot of this.
  • 2016 Chartogne-Taillet Champagne Saint-Thierry Extra Brut - France, Champagne
    Served blind. Disgorged October 2020, with a dosage declared as Extra Brut. 90% Chardonnay and the rest Pinot Meunier. This seemed soft to me, more plush with some spicy pear and juicy.
  • 2019 Dhondt-Grellet Champagne Premier Cru Les Terres Fines Blanc de Blancs - France, Champagne, Champagne Premier Cru
    Served blind. 70% is base 2019, the rest is reserves. Disgorged July 2022. 100% Chard with a gram and a half of dosage. This showed a big cut of fresh green apple, lime/green citrus which later evolved more towards a lighter lemon. Gingery. What I liked about the wine was the complexity and depth.
  • 2012 Jacques Lassaigne Champagne Blanc de Blancs Brut Nature Clos Sainte Sophie - France, Champagne
    What a letdown. I bought two of these back in 2019, and opened the first in 2021, which I called a 'winner'. It really was a wow bottle. I held the remaining bottle, deciding to open it last night and it's not close to what the 2021 bottle showed. The back label on this is pretty worthless--there is nothing here but some small font that tells me nothing. The wine? A gold hue, with lemon oil, heavy and bigger shouldered in weight. Spicy, lacking finesse with an astringent -like finish. Not sure what the heck happened...bottle variation? I paid $120 for this, and now the current release is north of $200. What's the internet cliche--"smh'.
  • 2016 Paul Bara Champagne Grand Cru Spécial Club Rosé - France, Champagne, Champagne Grand Cru
    Served blind. Astrid for the win! My WOTN. 70% Pinot Noir and 30% Chardonnay. No idea of the dosage. Disgorged September 2022. Lightly peach in color. When this was cool in temp, the energy is crisp with a delicious salinity, yet elegant in weight. When I let this warm more in the glass, crushed strawberry and apricot come through. In thinking about serving temp, this did really well when the chill was in the wine, and I found this cool balance of elegance, gentle fruit and acidity/structure. I'd enjoy drinking more of this, although the bottle shape makes me still cringe.

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I support you reloading and catching up Warren.

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What a shame. I’ve had a number of inconsistent or poor value bottle from this producer. Three bottles of 2013 BdB at $130 all seriously underwhelmed.

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Still have all my bottles and mags!

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And Astrid already has less than a fondness for BdB wines, and I served this to her. If she still speaks to me after last night, it will reveal a woman of great integrity and forgiveness. :wink:

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Double posted

Roelanda and I traveled to Westwood in LA to help celebrate a friend’s birthday and took advantage of making it a getaway, albeit just over 100 miles from home.

The night prior to the birthday dinner, we relaxed on our hotel’s quiet, private, comfortable rooftop and sipped some champagne while being entertained by 2 doves going through a courting process right in front of us for over an hour.

The male dove was making some extraordinary advances and I learned a lot that I’ll have to save for future romantic occasions, but I am going to have to develop some pecking skills.

The decision as to which champagne to pull for this evening was been made very easy by Roelanda who in the past has repeatedly answered “Cristal” when asked what she’d prefer to drink.

We had a bottle of the same vintage in February and it was so delightful and having quite a few in the cellar, I pulled another one and it drank equally stellar with very similar notes that have been edited only in a few instances:

2006 LOUIS ROEDERER CRISTAL BRUT- 55% Pinot Noir, 45% Chardonnay; dosage near 9 gpl; 20% of the wine was aged in oak; no ML; last consumed in February 2025 when it was discovered it has matured into one of the finer of all of the more recent Cristals since 1996 IMHO; the color was a rich yellow gold and the nose offered ginger and spice infused citrus fruit with lemon and lime most evident; the taste had more of the same and eventually, some delicious yellow apple, mango and white peach joined in; it had an amazing mouthfeel with its signature oily, viscous texture that had some weight that was immediately noticeable and appreciated; this was simply outstanding in every way; it had class, elegance, sophistication, charm and exuded royalty; it had super inviting aromas, an amazingly delicious taste profile and finished with everything coming together for a grand, climatic finish; we just marveled throughout the evening after each sip and I found myself rationing smaller sips to lengthen the near nirvanic experience.

Cheers,
Blake

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Paging @Dan_Kravitz

Had a glass of this yesterday at a lunch where we decided to stick to one bottle, and champagne wasn’t the ideal choice for the full meal. It was tasty, well made, and enjoyable, but nothing I’d seek out.

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You’re right Warren. The last one I had showed well early but seemed to lose vigor before we finished the bottle. We either didn’t drink it fast enough or this was an off bottle! I’ve always really liked Diapason, especially a few years ago when it was flying under the radar and selling for less. That cuvée and Lassaigne’s Vignes de Montgueux were regular at our house. Thanks for reminding me that I should buy some real soon! Cheers!

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Tom, thanks for pinging me on this!
David, thanks for posting.

I have imported these Champagnes and their predecessors (with a hiatus) for 40 years.

It’s a long story and it means a lot to me, so I am going to tell it. Settle in.

For almost a decade, before Terry Thiese made farmer fizz cool, I represented 4-5 growers. Every year I’d cull one or two and add others. Finally one year, at our national sales meeting, Peter Sloan put a machete to my throat and said “Dan, pick just one and let us build a market”. I picked Jean Laurent. I left behind Pierre Moncuit and (what was then) Gilbert Bertrand. When I told Gilbert that I would not be buying for a while, I promised I would be back.

When I first met Gilbert Bertrand I was impressed. He was a small man, in his late fifties, but he looked older. He talked with a rasp that made him difficult to understand.
In WWII, his parents hid Jews in their cellar. They were caught. His parents and the Jews were shot. Gilbert was about 15. He was stomped by the Nazis, his larynx crushed. His health never fully recovered, but he did. He married and had two sons. Almost two decades later, he and his wife had a big surprise, aka a daughter.

In 1986 my wife was ill. A year later she recovered enough that I could take a much-needed business trip to France. She didn’t feel well enough to care for Matt, our 10 year old son, so I took him with me. We had lunch with Gilbert Bertrand and his family. At the end of lunch, Gilbert’s daughter stood up and said “I’m first for Show and Tell at school this afternoon and I don’t have anything.” She pointed at Matt, and said “I’m taking him.”
Everybody laughed, but I made a few phone calls and told Matt: “You’re going to school this afternoon, I’ll pick you up later.”

Fast-forward:
Son Didier Bertrand marries Chantal Delespierre, the families combining 1er Cru vineyards totaling ~25 acres, almost equally split between Meunier, Pinot Noir and Chardonnay. They know that quality and character are necessary to build a sustainable Champagne business.
Pinot Meunier is the most widely planted grape in Champagne. It has a bad reputation. Most of it is in the Marne valley and the outskirts of Champagne. Few know that it reaches its apogee on the western slope of the Montagne de Reims, otherwise famous for Pinot Noir. There are also some odd chalky patches in this 1er Cru but little-known part of the Montagne. The original Bertrand family vineyards in Chamery were mostly Meunier with equal quantities of Chardonnay and Pinot Noir. The Delespierre family vineyards, a little to the north in Ecueil and Villedommange are mostly Pinot Noir.
The entry level wine, Enfant de la Montagne, is an almost equal blend of the three grapes; the vintage blend, now labled ‘L’Âme’ is similar but from older vines. Finally, despite their love of Meunier, the top bottlings are ‘Origines Croisees’, usually about 60/40 Pinot Noir and Chardonnay. There are both vintage and non-vintage offerings. Blanc de Blancs and saignee Rose complete the lineup.
IMO this is an outstanding Estate, not pushing the envelope but carefully growing wines from limited (by Champagne standards) yields and amazing attention to detail in the cellar. 2008 was an excellent vintage. I’m guessing this was disgorged 8 - 10 years ago and I’m not surprised that David found it drinking well. I wish I had a bottle (only basic NV left… sob).

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More stories please

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2016 Philipponnat Champagne Blanc de Noirs Extra-Brut

More voluptuous and less acidic than I expected but just gorgeous. Full bodied and embracing. I love this house. In fact I can’t remember ever being disappointed in a Philipponnat wine at any price point in the range. Very highly recommended

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  • 2017 Savart Champagne Premier Cru Le Mont Benoit - France, Champagne, Champagne Premier Cru (19/5/2025)
    Dinner at Dempsey Project, decided to bring this as it has been sitting in my wine fridge for a few years. 95% Pinot Noir, 5% Chardonnay. Disgorged Feb 2021, 2g/l dosage. 2582 bottles produced. A superb effort considering the vintage - precise red apple fruit, had the usual tension and energy of Savart wines. Slightly oxidative with air but not lacking in acidity. Well-balanced, both complex and gulpable. (94 pts.)

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