What's on the "No Fly" List

[Tim_Heaton]

Pretty much any wine that is rockin, smokin, smooth, has gobs, leaps or jumps.

[Corey_N]

@andrew messenger

Kosta Brown. A favorite of some I know. I’ve tried them young and older. Single vineyard and Sonoma blends. Was really excited with all the initial rave reviews. Not a single one floated my boat.

Sounds like you need a new boat.

[Bill_Tex_Landreth]

O’Shaughnessey

[Joe_G_a_l_e_w_s_k_i]

I thoroughly enjoyed a 2013 Rombauer chardonnay last night.

If you have any Velvet Glove to sell for a good price, please PM me.

I have to agree that Meiomi pinot noir has no redeeming value to me. And if you like it, I may pass judgement upon you.

[Merrill_Lindquist]

@Sean Malloy

@Merrill Lindquist

[Sean - don’t take my comment personally. It’s an interesting thread. Gutsy. Pointed. And it gives people a place to talk about one or more aspects of wine - go for it! But the crew around here can be very, very tough - agreed?

And for the record, I would love to run to the bank with the profits realized by Rombauer, The Wagner Family (Caymus, et al), Silver Oak, and others. I also would like to be able to give the amounts of money they give to charity - particularly to those in need in Napa Valley.

Ok, now I have been nice. I dislike some of the wines entered here by others. Another board member witnessed me dumping an entire bottle of non-flawed wine (from this list) down the sink the other day. And no, I won’t say which one it was. Actually there were 2, but only one from this list. I have also sent back to the bartender glasses of some of the wines listed here, as I found them unpalatable.

Carry on

Merrill: A really interesting response for a couple reasons. Yes, the crew can be very tough, some politely and some less so. Your point about profits is a good one; to make this list, a wine almost has to be widespread (and thus likely profitable if the producer knows their business). If it wasn’t distributed widely enough to get hated, it wouldn’t engender the kind of response that these wines do. If you made the exact wine that is Caymus 40th by growing, picking, making and selling it all yourself, it would still never make this list. People would likely not like it as much as your Black Cat, but they would appreciate the effort and either not comment or just say it’s not to their taste. In fact, I would bet that your Black Cat would be slightly less well received here if you sold 100,000 cases of it annually. I wish I could say that I am 100% influenced only by my senses, but I can tell you that, non-blind, I’m going to want to like something like Becklyn or EMH or Keating more than I’m going to want to like something from a bigger producer like Nickel and Nickel or Mondavi. And even if that influences my final verdict in some way, I think that’s ultimately a good thing. As for running to the bank with the profits, would you rather make Rombauer Chard (and only that) and run to the bank with those profits, or make your wine your way, and make what you make? I have a guess…

Well, typically when someone deals with me, they get the picture pretty quickly, so I don’t think you have to guess… . But one funny thing: when I saw the original thread title, I thought, “Oh no, now the airlines are going start restricting which wines you can fly with?!” Seriously. I guess Dartmouth’s move was too fresh in my mind.

[J_Singleton]

@John Davis

@Todd F r e n c h

Rombauer Chardonnay, aka ‘The Panty Dropper’ - definitely on the list

aka “Cougar Juice”

Time for me to do some shopping!

[andrew_messenger]

I probably could use a new boat. Mine is a bit old. But I can also say that you need a new set taste buds!I think every wine that has been mentioned has some people that are advocates. I gave KB 4 shots.

@Corey N.

@andrew messenger

Kosta Brown. A favorite of some I know. I’ve tried them young and older. Single vineyard and Sonoma blends. Was really excited with all the initial rave reviews. Not a single one floated my boat.

Sounds like you need a new boat.

[Corey_N]

@andrew messenger

I probably could use a new boat. Mine is a bit old. But I can also say that you need a new set taste buds!I think every wine that has been mentioned has some people that are advocates. I gave KB 4 shots.

@Corey N.

@andrew messenger

Kosta Brown. A favorite of some I know. I’ve tried them young and older. Single vineyard and Sonoma blends. Was really excited with all the initial rave reviews. Not a single one floated my boat.

Sounds like you need a new boat.

My post was tongue in cheek. I have no particularly strong feelings about KB one way or the other.

[andrew_messenger]

Corey, not clear before, understood now.

[Tony_Trumbo]

@Merrill Lindquist

. But one funny thing: when I saw the original thread title, I thought, “Oh no, now the airlines are going start restricting which wines you can fly with?!” Seriously. I guess Dartmouth’s move was too fresh in my mind.

I had the same thought as well. Was starting to be worried I couldn’t fly wines home to PA to enjoy with my Father-in-law

[Rick.T]

Opus One. It falls into the Silver Oak category, not a bad wine in prior vintages but way overpriced. I just drank my last bottle but wouldn’t purchase anymore for more than $50.

[Sc0tt_F_tzgerald]

Cakebread

[Mark_B]

Wines that have loads of sugar and zero acidity to back them up. Talk about a goopy train wreck.

[Michael_Martin]

Apothic Red

[CWun]

@Michael Martin

Apothic Red

+1.

I was out of town on business this week and business partners decided for all of us to go to a high end steakhouse. Apothic was $50 a bottle.

[Jim_Slatin]

How about any wine with 20,000 or greater case production and a price tag larger then most car payments

[Rick.T]

@Jim Slatin

How about any wine with 20,000 or greater case production and a price tag larger then most car payments

For example?

[George_Chadwick]

@Rick.T

@Jim Slatin

How about any wine with 20,000 or greater case production and a price tag larger then most car payments

For example?

Dom Perignon? But I like Dom Perignon and it’s fairly priced.

First growth Bordeaux? If one changes it to 10,000 cases, Bingo. $500 in an off vintage for mediocre and ubiquitous Cabernet.

[George_Chadwick]

I believe Rombauer chard comes from Ceja fruit. Try a Rombauer chard next to a Ceja chard from the same vintage. Exact same fruit. Anyone on this board prefer the Rombauer? Anyone? [cricket chirp]

I really like the Ceja Napa Auction Premiere Pinot and the lady in charge so I’m biased.

[George_Chadwick]

@Mark B

Wines that have loads of sugar and zero acidity to back them up. Talk about a goopy train wreck. http://www.wineberserkers.com/forum/download/file.php?id=20285

Oh yeah? See 1:32 to 2:12 “This is why you’re not Asian” LOL:

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