Wha?
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Wha?
Oxidative Pinot Noir from Arbaz in Switzerland ![]()
Rhone whites from Texas!!
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The one that comes to mind is Hambleton, which has mixed reviews on CT but which I liked. Nyetimber seems to have more of a following but I havenât had that yet.
Grk.
Although Iâd argue itâs a very traditional, just obscure.
Unless you can point me to a Napa Grk. That I would accept as non-traditional.
I hope you are referring to Georgia the state.
Because if the wines from the birthplace of wine are not counted as traditional, I donât know what are - unless you are looking for a heavily oaked Georgian Sangiovese, as that would definitely count as non-traditional!
Anyways, to me this thread sounds more like people are throwing obscure yet very traditional wines around. If you donât think theyâre traditional, I guess that tells more about you than about the wine.
And for example dry Furmint from Hungary is another very traditional wine. However, most people know only dry Furmints from Tokaj, Hungary - and those indeed are something non-traditional! Producers have made Furmint into dry wine everywhere else in Hungary, but Tokaj has been steadfastly producing sweet wines until very recently, as sweet wines have fallen out of favor and they have needed to re-think their stance.
Some other non-traditional styles people might not think of as non-traditional are dry Douro reds, oaky barrique-Barolos or serious German Spätburgunders made in a Burgundian style.
You mightâve found some few odd examples of these wines in the past, but in general these were outliers off the beaten path and in reality these are wines that werenât made 35-45 years ago. They might be well-known and well-respected styles of wine, but they came about as late as 1990âs or early 2000âs.
Let me try this again . . .
What is Grk?
A Croatian white variety. Makes hefty yet surprisingly fresh and structured white wines - the same way like Timorasso does. Aromatically different, though.
Otto nailed it with both posts.
As a Mister Language Person I was fascinated by the name (figured it would sell well in Hawaii, where they are desperate for consonants). Tried it once decades ago in eastern Europe, wasnât very good. Then a year or two ago a friend surprised me with a bottle stateside. Flowery more than fruity, very mineral, managed to combine real heft with real freshness, just like Otto said.
Ottoâs point about ânon-traditionalâ region cuts both ways. Yes, Grk is profoundly traditional on the Croatian coast. No, the Croatian coast is not a traditional wine region, as in it is definitely not testable on a Somm blind tasting exam.
Dan Kravitz
The best Blaufränkisch are not from Hungary but from Austria (Burgenland) - do they count?
So I have to go with English Sparkling wine.
Iâll match you with Oregon Sparkling wine. Seeing what the region has accomplished with Pinot Noir and Chardonnay, it only follows that there is great potential for Sparklers. The few Iâve had so far have been very promising.
I will add to your English and Oregon with German Sekt! In my opinion to better sparkling value in the wine world. Notice a them with the German anglesâŚ![]()
Somek Carignan from Israel.
if the wines from the birthplace of wine are not counted as traditional, I donât know what
I further clarified, that Iâm really looking for wines not on this list:
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That list represents basically all wine types that [broadly speaking] command high prices due to the regional and varietal reputation and/or their association.
The essence of my question is what specific wines that do not fall into one of those categories is currently exciting to you ⌠and where are you buying it?
Haha, in that case - wine from South Africa. Take your pick of varietal.
Great - who are some of your favorite producers [that get exported]? What varietals do you think they do an especially good job at making?
Bordeaux Ă la Rolland
Excite requires disambiguation.
Many of the comments here exemplify the folly of trying to isolate region from grape and wine making.
Just so I know that I am doing right, does Pinot from the Mosel qualify?