What is the correct stemware for The Prisoner? (I test 3 candidates)

It’s been a long time since I’ve tasted one, but I was making a zesty meatball sauce tonight, and decided to open a stray The Prisoner I had picked up. For those who have not seen/had one, the front label just has a picture – there is no indication of what it is, where its from, or the year. Only on the back label does it reveal that it’s a 2019 The Prisoner ‘red wine’ [California] along with its ample 15.5% abv. These tend to run $50ish at retail - astonishingly - and are basically ‘loud steakhouse’ gluggers. I had assumed this would be mostly zinfandel, but I pulled out a Riedel Burgundy, Riedel Bordeaux, and Gabriel StandArt to see what would suit it best.

Despite the elegance a Burgundian stem should accentuate, The Prisoner came across hot and spirity in the (far left) bowl. I had made sure to keep this quite cold, but this isn’t a good medium for it. Perhaps Maximilien will develop ‘California Red Blend’ optimized crystal for this category?

From the Riedel Bordeaux (far right) - which had the greatest distance from nose to the bottom - the figgy / Fig Newton aspects came through strongest. Also the fleshy/flabby feel in the mouth was higher here. I suppose this is probably an ok choice, if one doesn’t have a syrah type of Rhone glass. I don’t drink much (varietal) Zinfandel but when doing so would likely pour it in one of these, so a reasonable choice.

From the GG stem, I found it to be jammy and Junior Mint inflected; without researching I felt it tasted like a zinfandel/malbec blend. The glass seemed to accentuate the viscosity, but helped reduce the perceived heat. After sniffing and swirling across all the stems, I think this was the best vehicle for the high residual sugar, high alcohol blend. Overall, beyond the stemware, the wine is kryptonite for the stereotypical AFWE / WB palate - jammy, gooey, hot, sweet etc. It needs to be kept cool, and perhaps aired out too, but I can see how it would satisfy a swath of consumers. I think a decent proxy for whether one might like it would be if they favor KC Masterpiece glazed ribs. The cork is very short, by the way. I’d give this a B- on my card, but it’s not flawed nor undrinkable; still I can wait another decade before having another glass, but I’ll test it out of a red Solo cup at a BBQ.

My better half suggests that next time I freeze the meatballs before browning them, so they keep proper spheres. There was a lot of deformation with this batch. Also, for the sauce I tried Bianco DiNapoli canned tomatoes for the first time and can attest that brand is excellent. Sadly, not carried at my normal markets, but perhaps worth the effort to stock up the pantry when I am passing by a Nugget Market. (Also there was no cornmeal involved - I had just left the container on the counter)

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Dude, love love the entire obsessive geekiness of this deep dive. God bless you!

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I think you forgot an important contender

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How about

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You need to test it out in this glass.

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Shot glass?

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Arv - Your dedication to science is unmatched, as is our gratitude for your efforts.

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I fondly remember the early Prisoner wines in the mid-2000’s. David Phinney was the original winemaker, made just a few hundred cases & it focused on old vine Zin, Syrah & Petite Syrah. I think I bought it at $19 and it was a fun wine, imo.

He grew the label in part by taking advantage of the CA grape glut of that time ala Bronco Wine Co/Charles Shaw but on a smaller scale.
Then sold it to the Huneus family (Quintessa). I like to think Augustin’s son destroyed the brand (although it was a huge commercial success) around the time he detonated his daughter’s college (and non-existent water polo) career.

RE: meatballs-
Inconsistently shaped meatballs are the hallmark of one who hand-makes them and is given to attention-diverting flights of fancy like taste testing wine out of 3 diff stems.
Perfectly round meatballs are for those who buy them premade or have nothing more interesting to do with their time.
The Arv we know doesn’t have perfect balls…
PS, the amount of Penzey’s Italian Herb mix we go through in the this house is crazy, everything is better with it.

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Thunder bucket

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I gotta get me one of these

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Bianco DiNapoli are excellent tomatoes. I think they’re as good as anything I’ve had from Italy, DOP San Marzano or otherwise. Whole Foods carries them.

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Just kidding. Kind of. I think it’s not quite as terrible as most here love to believe. sort of. maybe.

Leisure. Cultivated. Nourished. :wine_glass:

Good contender for the “funniest post of the year” award, Arv.

And you were right.

… The Prisoner was released two decades ago as a complex blend of some of California’s best and most unusual grape varieties

Unusual?

The 2023 Prisoner Red Blend is another stunning example of creativity and craftsmanship in winemaking. The combination of Zinfandel with Petite Sirah, Syrah, Cabernet Sauvignon, Merlot, and Malbec is an intriguing mix that promises complexity and depth.

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I’ve occasionally wondered whether the Prisoner juice resembles the “pruno” some of my clients have discussed with me.