It’s a similar site to the shadow site that dN had. I wouldn’t spend too much time on the guessing or estimated prices per bottle of possible sources, but scroll to the far right for each wine and click on the “Notes” button.
There you will find the original email description Cam gave for each wine, as well as its original price point per case. Some have been a bit cheaper at sales, but it’s a good reference point as to where current prices are.
Can’t answer the sale question, Cam just finished a bottle sale a few days ago that was 20% off mix n match bottles. Join the email list on Cam’s site for future announcements as they happen, or stay tuned to the regular CamX forum. Cheers!
Hi Jan - A lot depends on the wine and vintage; ie the 2023 napa cabs will take a lot longer to settle into bottle than the 2024 napa cabs will. Having said that, general rule of thumb is that, for bottle shock, SB, CH, rose take about 6-8 weeks, pinot, zin and Syrah (with lot 16 Syrah being an outlier here), about 8 -12 weeks, and BDX varieties 12+ weeks to get through shock but usually a lot longer to build bottle bouquet/aromatics.
If you want to see what’s what from the 2023 cabs:
I just priced out (3 packs):
Lot 5, 32, 12, 10 as $286 (plus $19 shipping)
Honorable mention: Lot 21 and Lot 7.
That’s just north of $25 a bottle. I think we paid about half of that. But, IMO, it’s still quite a good value. And would give you a good sense of what is going on.
The newer stuff is all cheaper, and we’re all waiting to find out how good it is
I did see that Jeb Dunnock rated some recent CamX wines. He did really nicely. Bravo, Cam. The write up was great. Something like…‘we need more wines like this to get consumers interested at a reasonable price point’. Paraphrasing not quoting.
Thanks for the very measured feedback. I do love reading your notes and the accompanying panoramas. I had posed the question after opening (but before tasting) dN 11, 38 and 52. Good lord was I pleased, especially with lot 52 which might have been a close third, but given the lack of love for it a few years back it really spoke to the ageability of these wines. I really want to try all the Cam X’s, but with so much dN to go through, it makes a lot more sense to just hide all the reds for three years.
Lot 37
Exquisitely perfumed, very pretty and intense. Definitely agree with Cam’s note that the aroma alone is worth it. Palate is a bit disjoined - expected given the bottle date - with too much acid dominance and a thin mid palate feel. Overall think this is just too young, and very curious to see how it comes around over the next six months at least.
Had a lot 4 chard the other day with sushi and thought it was the WOTN. That said, I think it was the highest priced bottle in the mix (Keller chard la Cruz, michel schlumberger brut, DN n.75 and Our Wines PN). A very nice, steely, lean chard with minimal oak influence. If all Cam Xs are this good, I need to buy more. So far, I have only purchased lots 4, and 32 which I’ve yet to try.
A bit off topic but how was the Michael Schlumberger brut? I had a case of that from casemates get lost in the mail last summer and I’ve been wondering ever since how it would have been!
The 4 and the 32 are the only 2 I’ve tried. Happy with both. Also happy to let other lots I have bottles sit but the next two I’m likely to try are cabs lots 1 and 2
It’s really good, on par with Roederer Estate imo. They were the two standouts from our sushi dinner, although everything showed well. I would happily pick up another case, as it’s clearly better than the TJs brut rose which is our usual daily drinker bubbly.
Great to hear the 32 is drinking well. I don’t plan on touching those for quite a while. I try hold off for 8-10 years if possible. And with the Elivette sale (not to mention Notre Vin and Saunter), I have more than my fair share of aged cabs and Bordeaux blends to keep me busy!
