What bottle of wine did you open today? (Part 2)

This was a 2008, but quite advanced to my palate. We didn’t finish it and I couldn’t get through a small pour.

I’m not a fan of the new style (I think “beautiful reduction” is an oxymoron) and don’t have enough experience with the old style, to be honest.

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Ah, I know what you mean. What can I say, I like the taste of reduction… :roll_eyes:

It’s a question of style.

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Night out in Geneva. We discovered a sweet cocktail bar and had a few lovely cocktails to start things off.

We moved on to a decent Italian restaurant and had a couple of glasses of Pellegrin to start off. I was introduced to his M and P a while back and really liked them. This was my first try with his whites.


Sauvignon, Kerner, Riesling. The nose is all Riesling: citrus and petrol. The Sauvignon shows up of the palate with some dry extract and notes of honeysuckle. Good, very dry but simple. Worked well with fried calamari.

We then moved on to Barolo:


First Spinetta ever. This was a 2017. Awesome nose: dark cherry, dried rosebuds, some earth/tar; very aromatic. The palate was tight and wound up. The somm proposed a gizmo:

It expanded the nose even further but the body never quite turned around. This is just too young. Plenty of powdery Nebiollo tanins, wound up fruit and juicy acidity. This begs for time. The gizmo does not work.

But the food helped though! Great veal Ragú with home made pasta. Very nice.

Good friends of mine got married. They also happen to be wine nerds. Everything was served in magnum, and everything was drinking well (or maybe the occasion just made everything good, who knows :smiley:)

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Nice menu and wines!

How was the Desjourneys? That Pacalet Chambolle was probably a pleasure to drink?

The Desjourney was a joy to drink. Even though it is not really my style, then it just had a serious concentration mixed with a beautiful balanced acidity and a saline note which i really enjoyed. It is very young now but approachable.

The Pacalet was indeed very enjoyable. A little more evolved than i expected, but still great.

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really dig what Bruno Lorenzon is doing these days. This was oh so young, with vgood upside it seems.

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We found some great looking giant squid tentacles today and my two boys would not let me leave without getting them from the fish market.

So what is normally a light, easy Monday dinner with no wine turned into tentacles two ways and whatever white wine was in the regular fridge.


I drank two of those already but didn’t write any TNs. It’s a 9.90 euros bottle so it’s normally in the fridge for cooking and a small glass or as the Xth bottle following long, loooong, apéritifs.

But you know what? It ain’t bad. The nose is lemon galore: lemon oil, rind, lemon curd and white flowers. There’s some vanilla underpinning the fruit. The palate is also dominated by lemon but there’s some unripe peaches and cantalope as well. It’s starts with tart acidity, decent weight on the mid-palate from the dry extract and a short finish that brings up chamomile wrapped in (what else?) lemon.

Poor pairing with the squid though.

The squid two ways, which was actually two completely separate and disjointed made on the spot recipes was awesome though! I’m rarely fully happy with a meal I cook but this was bang on.

Approximate recipes available on demand :grin:

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Riesling dinner last night, but @Steve_McL insists we drink Burgundy, so @bradkaplan obliged:

Ludes were of the time, and the vintage, and a bit austere-not a great match with Sichaun. SL was on point

'06 ZH was prob the wine of the night, along with SL and an '05 Willi Schaefer

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Nice color on that ZH…

So, inquiring minds want to know, what was Brad’s blind Burgundy? (Try saying that 3 times fast…)
Hopefully not “Scotchy scotch scotch”.

Stay classy people
ron-burgundy-scotchy-scotch-scotch

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I hate to have missed it. How was the food?

I was going to ask what the vintage on that Sex Panther….

@Steve_McL - Brad’s blind Ron Burgundy was not Burgundy, but perhaps Burgundian. 2008 Ladd Cellars Sonoma Coast. Was pretty good with some air. I thought it was Lapierre and or something like that, but I clearly don’t know what I’m doing. Klafter guessed Mercurey. Nice wine, drinking well.

@Mike_Evans - we missed ya- food was good. Like last time for the most part. We lucked out on our table as they were busy with a line out the door much of the night.

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This Ladd was hard to pin down blind, especially at first, since (as noted elsewhere) it takes some air to really get going. At first it felt a bit riper, denser than my recollections (we had guesses of syrah, in addition to bojo, mercurey, um swiss pinot?). Fun wine to serve blind.

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Opened a 2018 Beta Chardonnay paired with bbq halibut, damn this wine was nice. I decanted in the fridge and let it warm in the glass some.

Finished with a 19 Turley Ueberroth. This is surprisingly drinking beautifully young. I like to get another year on these zins.

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The 94 Ludes we had leftover is actually a lot better 24hrs in… more acid, more fruit, more body, though less herbal/vegetal. Feels much more “mainstream” and remarkably fresher. Crazy!

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2019 Durfort-Vivens
The CT tasting notes were so effusive I had to try, infanticide or not. Decanted for two hours and drank about 18 degrees out of Zalto Bordeaux. Hard to believe this isn’t 15 years old, as it is integrated and luscious, with an aftertaste which lingers and lingers. Deep dark fruits but throughout, not in the middle as I expected. The tannins must be too fine grained for my palate, as I struggled to find them. On this showing i would happily drink now, but am intrigued to see what turns up after a decade, so will wait…and wait. Truly delicious

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I don’t think you can go wrong with these Lurton wines the last handful of years. Thanks for the scientific note!

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2019 Vida Valiente The Movement - Cabernet Sauvignon
Very tasty!