what are your favorite Jadot wines?

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The CSJ and Beaune Usules and Couchereaux.

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I used to read these all the time but have not seen any in a couple of years. Link?

Thanks.

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CSJ and Pougets are my go to’s. The Beaune CdU is a good value, but I think it is worth the extra $20 to step up the Pougets. I don’t think CsD is worth the uncharge from CSJ.

As for the whites :frowning: I still have some pre-moxed '10 Perrières in the cellar. They did drink great young, but then they turned. I also had 2 6-packs of Montrachet. Thankfully it was so delicious young that I made it through the first 6-pack no problem. Every bottle in the 2nd 6-pack was either slightly or very advanced. The '10 Demoiselles was just the opposite, super reductive, I doubt if that will ever turn. I have not bought a Jadot white since then, but of course they seemed to have turned things around the next year.

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I haven’t seen them for a while either–perhaps due to Covid? This is the one I was thinking of (and others from the same set of days): 2011 Vintage Assessment Dinners – Night Three “Mostly Montrachet” – March 27, 2019 at Spago - WINE TALK - WineBerserkers

The Jadot Montrachet came in No. 1 and beat out the Coche CC etc.

Here’s what he says about Jadot: The 2011 vintage was a stunning success for Jadot due to the DIAM closures used for the first time. Four of the five Jadot wines we tasted over the three nights finished in the top three wines rated by the group for each night. Jadot is back on my “buy” list for their top wines starting with 2011. DIAM will probably restore Jadot’s reputation, but the badly flawed 2011 Bienvenues on night two proved that you can still have bad wines despite DIAM.

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Corton-Charlemagne GC

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Thanks. I have seen the one of the 2011 vintage and Jadot and it (with a couple of years passage) got me to buy a few bottles of 2017 Louis Jadot Puligny Montrachet Clos de la Garenne Domaine du Duc de Magenta when Envoyer had it at a great price. Have not opened them up yet.

I have over the years learned a lot from Don’s tasting threads, which is why I asked about newer ones. For example, I have been really interested not only in how well Jadot started to do but even further back with how well Bouchard has done (esp. with regard to the Meursault Perrieres). I now have more Bouchard Meursault Perrieres than any other single vineyard from a specific producer of white Burgundy, edging out Ramonet CM Morgeot.

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Wish I would have bought more Ursules back in the day when they were under $50!

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Just got an offer today for the 19 Ursules and $90. [wow.gif]

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Well, that is why my newest vintages of this are from 2010. Think I paid $35 for the 2008.

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im curious, i read this as a compliment to jadot but then realized it could have been a sit down to them instead, and now im wondering how it was intended? personally, i would view a second tier burg producer as still pretty high quality, but i guess that also depends how many tiers the system has lol

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I think third-rate has the same connotation in the UK as it does in the US.

Third-tier could mean something completely different, potentially not negative, but not oozing with praise either.

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I would say that one good “hack” for decoding the Jadot portfolio is to look at the origins of the holdings. Their Beaune Cras, for example, comes from the old Château du Chorey and has superb vine genetics in a great site (one I would love to vinify myself). Their Marsannay Les Longeroies comes from very old ex-Clair-Daü vines and also punches above its weight. And so on…

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Some Ursules 2011 available here at a decent price. Any experience with the vintage anyone?

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Thanks for this incidental fact, William. I’d always loved the chateau du Chorey Cras and wondered what happened to it.

Another slightly under the radar Jadot favorite of mine is their NSG Boudots, which I think someone mentioned above. I believe these are their own vines (there may actually be two bottlings)

What’s the best way to figure out the origins of the holdings used in the Jadot wines?

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That sounds about right on pricing back then. Used to see it on sale locally in that range. [cheers.gif]

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Is there a good place to look at the origins of Jadot holdings?

I remember tasting at the old Chateau du Chorey cellar. It was very old school with all kind of interesting things growing everywhere. It was also cold and wet outside, and even colder where we tasted in the cellar. The wines were hard and unyielding in the cellar, and stayed that way for years after. No doubt I wasn’t patient enough. On the plus side, I remember they had a very nice dog.

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About the only good reason to be a senior is the prices I got to pay for wine. [cheers.gif]

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Not really. I do comment on it from time to time in my TWA tasting notes though.

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I had a quite spectacular 2012 Jadot / Domaine Gagey Clos St Denis, far superior to any of the few Jadot Clos St Jacques I have had. It led me to hunt down a few more. What is the reputation of that wine?

Also have had some very nice, if not as spectacular, bottles of less celebrated premier crus from them, specifically 2009 Estournelles St Jacques and 2006 V-R Les Beaumonts. Those didn’t knock my socks off like the CSD, but for the price I got them at (some years ago, remarkably cheap by today’s standards and even then I suppose), they were really nice

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I have really enjoyed some beaune 1er rouges as other have noted on here, but I think the real value in Jadot is the whites (of course 2011 and onward). I haven’t had a premox issue with a single bottle and I’ve had some bottles show spectacularly well. I think they’re a value, I suspect because demand is still a bit low due to premox hangovers. Just as was showing earlier in this thread regarding the 2011 Jadot Montrachet, I’d suspect in blind tastings Jadot will raise a lot of eyebrows in the years ahead.