I supposed their work around was a matter of semantics. Wouldn’t we assume they would just put estate if it was since that is a much more concrete selling points than the other world salad?
Could it be contract fruit where they farm the vineyard?
Estate is not a regulated term in the US. Estate Bottled is.
“In the USA, the term ‘estate bottled’ is defined by law and the wine must have been made and bottled at the producer’s winery, and from grapes from vineyards owned or controlled by the producer that are within the same viticultural area as the winery,”
Controlled is a pretty loose term and certainly could qualify for what @TGigante is speaking of.
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Paging @CaseyHartlip former grower extraordinare.
No it’s for estate-bottled wine.
Maybe this wine was produced at a 3rd-party facility by the wineries team. That would disqualify it from being estate-bottled but still allows for the claim they grow their own fruit, whether from vineyards they own or ones they contract and control.
VWE certainly had a number of facilities they controlled and could move production around to.
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How ‘bout that, learn something new every day.
Very misleading wording on that label. We had an estate agreement with one client in AV and it was a very thorough document. It listed which fields ‘leased’ by the winery. There was also separate payment per ton for the lease and then for the fruit. We had another client that loosely used the term estate without the paperwork. I my book when you say GP&B that’s as exclusive and definite as it gets.
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I dunno, none of this seems particularly sketchy to me. Fruit could be grown at other company vineyards and vinified/bottled at the Laetitia winery. You still have control over the fruit, the winemaking, the bottling. There’s just s bit of time in a truck between the vineyard and the winery. Or it could be a lease where they are making the vineyard decisions. They aren’t making any site specific claims so it’s not like they’re tricking you into thinking it’s from a specific site.
“We grow our own fruit, just not all the fruit we use, and not the fruit in this bottle.”
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It doesn’t seem as delicious when you frame it like that.
You can’t prove that, Rusty.
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