Yep, that’s no good at all! The Coravin certainly is not a great fit for all wines…but i would have been pretty confident a 5-year old Rhone would have been fine. Sorry that happened!
Well it was still Guillaume Gilles and was damned delicious regardless!
If you only put gas into the empty head space and not into the wine I find will not create as much issues with sediment. (gas stirring the wine around) Just wait till wine stops flowing Lean up so needle not in wine, insert gas till full then needle into wine quickly Easily can do this once you get use to it though may waste some gas
I think you figured out sarcasm
I love the Corovin and use it primarily when I want a glass of white and no one else wants it. Works well, but like many, the bottle is never around for more than a month and I don’t Corovin anything over 5-6 years old.
But, my biggest flaw with the Corovin is I Corovin a glass, then decide on another and end up opening the bottle. Definitely the big joke with my wife that the surest way to drink a bottle is to start with a glass that we Corovined!
Interesting, I agree with your premise that there is sediment present even in young wines (unfiltered), but I wonder if other people are not bothered by it like me. It literally does not bother me one iota. But then again my palate does tend to run toward some degree of elegant rusticity in wines.
I should qualify that I do decant more mature wines for the purposes of keeping the built-up sediment out of the wine
I will add that my biggest issue is cork debris resulting from inserting the needle. I expressed this issue to Coravin but their response focused on corks in less than good condition. As noted previously, I exclusively use it for very young wines.
Exactly the same for us .
I am not sure I am that coordinated but will try next time…
I’ve been using the original model since 2014 with no issues other than replacing the needle.
I have used with multiple bottles from the late 90s to the aughts with no major degradation. Just finished a 2013 Rhys Horseshoe Chard + 2007 Chevillon Vaucrains that were initially accessed during the holidays. I’ve pushed some bottles to 6 months with little disappointment.
Once accessed, I keep the bottles standing upright and in the fridge.
A place recommended in the “Eating and Drinking in Paris” thread. Thought it was a spot on pick for Todd’s experience in restaurants.
I’ve been experimenting for a few months & get value from both Repour and Coravin for short term variety and portion control. I typically use the Coravin to siphon off 8oz into a Boston bottle and to pour a single glass+ to taste as a “pnp.” I can then open a 2nd bottle on the same night for whatever reason. I have mostly used Repour to spread a white wine out over 3-5 days in the fridge, to good effect.
I don’t bother trying to extend the younger or older bottles, but these tools hit the spot with medium special wines that I am drinking solo over time, or some white v. red serving issue, like when a recipe wants a a cup or less of white wine for a dish that will end up being served with a red. On any given weekend, I can open what I feel like on the front end, and spread any lesser/disappointing wines over a longer run of days instead of being “stuck” with one for 2 days straight.
That same principle made the Coravin extra helpful when throwing a smaller tasting/party as I was willing to open more bottles for the sake of variety & have less wastage after the party. I used the Boston bottles (including some 2oz bottles) as backup or as a parting gift, or to try the next day so I could write a better TN. Which was your favorite wine of the night? Oh here’s another ~2 glasses you can take home and taste/drink over the next day or two!
Of note: fill the bottle to the brim such that you lose a few drops when you put the cap on. There is a wee bit of o2 exposure during the pour, so think of it as ending up with a slow-ox trajectory. I don’t trust any of these methods for a full week, since a few Coravin’d bottles have deteriorated on me after day 3-4, and I haven’t experimented with Repour with reds over more than 2-3 days. I could stand to invest in the thinner needle & be more consistent about sealing up the pinhole after withdrawing the needle, but some ingress is inevitable IMO.
In conclusion, it’s great to be able to keep 2-3 bottles open over 4-5 nights, but that’s about what these tools are good for. I can scratch that ‘tasting itch’ without drinking as much (or losing good wine to the drain). The efficiency gain more than pays for itself inasmuch as I’m opening fewer bottles each month & that’s good for the wallet and stomach, but I feel like I’m drinking just as well as ever. But nor are they magical technologies that allow unlimited dabbling.
We use it in the restaurant I work at, and honestly, it’s a game changer. It lets us offer all sorts of wines by the glass — everything from the special stuff that only gets ordered once in a while to bottles we pour daily.
Guests are always intrigued by how it works — it definitely adds a bit of theatre, and gives us a chance to chat more about the wine itself.
Only real downside is how fast we go through the argon capsules — on a busy shift, we can easily use 3 to 5. It’s great for personal use or for quieter service, but you definitely feel the cost once you’re pulling multiple pours all night.
I have not used the Repour stoppers as I have read some reports of them giving “off” flavors to wines.
However, nothing in this thread indicates that it is actually an issue, but I thought I would raise the question and see if anyone here has, indeed, experienced any disappointing results with this product. TIA.
Dan at Carter winery created a more industrial solution. He made an attachment that connects to an argon tank the size of a scuba tank. You should look into something like that
I haven’t noticed any off flavors associated with the use of Repour, but again mine may not be the most sensitive palate.
Out past 3-5 days I have less confidence but rarely do bottles last that long. Most get finished within 2-3 days of opening.
Try it on some not-too-precious bottles and see what you think.
As I mentioned earlier. DIAM cork. Needle down. This one literally just crumpled last night while I tried to open an 2021 Arianna Occhitpinti SP68.
BTW, I looked up my stats. This was the 383rd bottle I have accessed via Coravin over the past 12 years. For those that assume I am a dumbfuck newb who is just “doing it wrong.”
Time to order a new needle. I have had two of them do this, literally just fold and crumple. So 2/383 is not the worst failure rate ever, but it is there.
Those diam corks are murder even on regular corkscrews!
Never broken or folded a corkscrew on a DIAM.
And they are damned dense.
And thank goodness, since they seem to have solved premox.
Ooof! Ive never bent a needle on a DIAM but ive had to pull so damned hard to pull the needle out that i literally thought i was going to snap the Coravin in half. I still use it on DIAM corks but it definitely gives me pause every time i do.
Sorry that happened. The needles aren’t cheap either