TNs: Musarathon

I haven’t attended many wine tastings proper in recent years. I prefer to drink more of a single good wine and to have less wines open at once - i.e. opening a nice bottle with dinner and just enjoying is what I prefer to the more analytical tasting situation. But I couldn’t resist an invitation to try some Musar. Mostly they were vintages that I’ve had before but Musar is still always fun even when I know them well.

We started with a couple Jeunes. First the Jeune Rosé 2012 which was perfectly clean, perfectly drinkable and perfectly innocuous and vapid. The Jeune Red 2011 was just like that, too. Musar is odd in how their minor wines are so incredibly boring compared to the first wines (the very occasional Hochar Père & Fils excepted).

We then moved onto the rosé and whites. Hochars always suggest serving the whites after the reds since they are such weird, unique, rich whites and can easily overpower the reds, but I have stopped trying to persuade tastings to adopt this method since it’s hopeless trying to get others interested in such an iconoclastic ordering of wines. And also, I’m not so sure it really matters all that much so I’m happy both ways.

Chateau Musar Rosé 2012
The youngest Musar rosé I’ve had. It smelled a bit confected and plastic and though it was dry and acidic and low in alcohol (11,5%) I wasn’t terribly fond of it. But I’m pretty certain it’s just due to age. These really blossom with lots of bottle age. I recently had my last 1995 - not many rosés last, much less improve, over 20 years. If I had any 2012 rosé, I’d probably bury it in the cellar and open one in maybe five years to see how it is.

Chateau Musar Blanc 2006
A very nice but not great white Musar. It has a very classic Musar profile of something fishy (and that’s not a bad thing: fresh fish is actually a very pleasant aroma) and something like apricot or other sweet, sunny fruit. Relatively lighter body than the following whites and that brings the acidity more to the fore than is normal for white Musar which usually is not an acidic white but a rich one.

Chateau Musar Blanc 2001
A very exotic style of Musar with IIRC a long growing season and not super hot weather and the long hang-time resulted in a fragrant, funky, exotic wine that is rather like a grand Grand Cru Burgundy with age on it - except that this is young and much better than any Grand Cru Burgundy I’ve had (except for the 2001 DRC Montrachet :smiley: ). Rich, concentrated but also extremely moreish. Awesome wine.

Chateau Musar Blanc 2000
Corked.

Chateau Musar Blanc 1995
Now we get to an orange/honey coloured wine. And I must say that it is not as good a bottle as it should be: a white Musar this young shouldn’t have a rye bread -like oxidation but should only be lightly oxidative. But despite the rye aroma, all else is as it should be: honey and richness and moreishness all in one. I actually really enjoyed it though it wasn’t its usual good self. It’s funny how even the not perfect bottles are still capable of charming you.

Chateau Musar Blanc 1991
1990 is the legendary white Musar of this period but this 1991 is really nice, too. It’s kind of on the rich, exotic end of the white Musar spectrum, like the 2001. There is honey and an almost botrytised aroma and great richness and sweetness to the fruit despite 25 years age. The colour may have turned orange but I still think there’s no hurry at all if this is a representative bottle of how it’s evolving.

I really love the whites of Musar and have come to think of them as even greater than the great reds they make. But red flight was certainly not a chore to get through. We opened all the '00s that have been released so far (afaik the '06 isn’t released).

Chateau Musar Rouge 2008
Mildly corked.

Chateau Musar Rouge 2007
Not one of the best Musars, but I’m such a fan that even at their worst, Musars are still more interesting and fun than almost any other wines. So I did kind of enjoy this '07, too. It had all the correct aromas and it’s only real problems were that it just didn’t have all the dimensions of the best Musars and it had a bit of harshness on the finish.

Chateau Musar Rouge 2005
Rich, ripe, big, open and wearing its heart on its sleeve. But it also had lovely levels of volatility and funk. It wasn’t smelly, but it did bring a lovely savouriness to the whole. Big but perfectly balanced and fresh despite all the ripe fruit and surprisingly drinkable though very young.

Chateau Musar Rouge 2004
Never a truly great Musar, but always a fine little wine. But it seems safe and a bit flat after the gorgeous volatile 2005. Sweet and simple and very charming when you don’t compare it to the great wines. Is the fanboi in me showing since I can’t even damn a lesser year? :smiley:

Chateau Musar Rouge 2003
A surprisingly tame showing: not much volatility or shite, but more like a sunny Southern Rhone. But I’ve recently started to appreciate Grenache a little bit so I didn’t mind. Good stuff.

Chateau Musar Rouge 2002
It’s a year I’ve always rather liked though not everyone shares my enthusiasm. It’s a brighter, lighter less Rhoney year than the 2003 and just has a bit more shite and volatility and freshness. Yummy.

Chateau Musar Rouge 2001
But it’s really the 2001 that was brilliantly expressive with plenty of ripeness, dung and volatility. It was kind of like the 2005 (though not as perfect). Gorgeous wine.

Chateau Musar Rouge 2000
Simple and sweet; not terribly volatile but with a nice touch of shite - not the obvious sort, but rather the sort where one takes a quick glance at the soles of one’s feet to see if one has stepped in anything canine.

Thanks for the notes Otto. I recently had the 2012 Rose, and my reaction to the first whiff was much like yours. After letting it warm up a bit in a decanter it showed a bit better, but it is simply too young. Given the cepage, I think it would benefit from the same pre-release aging as the Blanc. The only Rose I have had that ages as nicely is the Lopez de Heredia.

Thanks Otto. I have a few of those and I know that I can trust your notes on Musar.

Thank you for the notes Otto. I always like reading your notes, esp. on Musar.

Nice tasting. It’s interesting to read about the Blanc with some age as I haven’t experienced that yet. Hopefully I’ll be able to hold some of my younger bottles long enough. '01 is my favorite red of the vintages you had. I’d be interested to see how the '99 would compare, or your thoughts on that. '99 is my favorite post-'95 vintage. Unfortunately there have been a couple in there that I haven’t enjoyed at all, but the extreme vintage variation is part of what makes it such a fun wine. It looks like you enjoyed the '05 more than the '99, which doesn’t match my experience, but it could be the bottles I’ve had or a difference of opinion on what are both very nice wines.

Nice notes. I will have to keep an eye out for the '01 and '05 rouge.

Now I just need to get back to Finland - I have some interesting blind bottles for our next tasting…

David, IIRC the rosé is made pretty much exactly in the same fashion as the white except a small percentage of Cinsault is thrown in as well. So yes, I agree, ageing before release would be a great idea.

Brian&Corey, thank you, but you shouldn’t trust anything especially when I state outright that I have a bit of a fanboi problem with these wines.

Doug, the '99 will be in part 2 sometime in spring. But the previous '99s I have had are at least as good as the '05 and possibly better. Along with the '91 it is one of the greatest red Musars. Do hold onto your whites. They are deceptively drinkable even when youngish, but their magic really begins only when they age several decades and turn from a yellow/straw colour to something that looks oxidised and orange.

Wade, yes you do. To both finding '01 and '05 and getting back here soon. :slight_smile:

Otto – I am going to pop a 97 tonight; any suggestions?

I’ve had the '01 and '02 in the past year and I’ve always liked the '02 better. I thought they really nailed it that year.

Corey, red or white? Whichever it is, decant now if you haven’t already. They need air.

Red…and done.

Thank you sir.

Corey, the '97 red can be quite wild - one of the more extreme Musars. Personally I love it, but some have difficulty with it because in some bottles the unique characteristics of Musar are taken up to 11. Please let us know how your bottle is. :slight_smile:

I promise to report back Otto!

Interesting that a wine made from ancient Lebanese bushwines and with a price of less than 1% of DRC Monty almost can compete [cheers.gif]
But an awesome wine it is
Thanks for the notes

Chateau Musar Rouge 2002
It’s a year I’ve always rather liked though not everyone shares my enthusiasm. It’s a brighter, lighter less Rhoney year than the 2003 and just has a bit more shite and volatility and freshness. Yummy.


Chateau Musar Rouge 2000
Simple and sweet; not terribly volatile but with a nice touch of shite - not the obvious sort, but rather the sort where one takes a quick glance at the soles of one’s feet to see if one has stepped in anything canine.[/quote]

Sorry to be childish and i appreciate its a spell checker or similar but i once had the 2002 so i was curious on the note, it was not as bad as the description here !! reminds me of a fish place in Indonesia near where i used to work that couldnt spell and had a menu of all sorts of dishes made with fresh crap instead of carp

Alan, not sure what you mean. There is a slight brett, dung, poop scent in some of the best Musars. And that shite scent is exactly what I meant. So not a carp vs. crap thing at all but the genuine thing.

Sorry Otto

Ive heard funky, barnyard, rotting vegetal but never shite used a descriptor

Alan, yeah, Musar can be a bit stinky. Many of us appreciate that. I happen to think that is one of Musar’s greatest virtues.

Otto…how long do you think the Rose can age? I’ve got a few bottled of the '95 rose set aside but I’d love to hear your thoughts on when they might be at peak or how long you expect the can age compared to the red & white. Thanks…

Kirk, I have heard rumours and unsubstantiated claims that it ages just as well as the red and white but unfortunately the '95 is the oldest I remember trying. And though it hasn’t changed in recent years, I don’t think it tastes like well stored bottles are in any hurry. So no idea. I’m sure in a forum this size someone will have had a Musar Rosé older than 20 years so hopefully they will notice your question.