TN: Some Calif Reds...(long/boring)

We tried last night (7/22/15) Some Wines:

  1. Dashe Zin LeInfantsTerribles McFaddenFarm/PotterVlly/MendoCnty (13.8%; Native Frmentation; low SO2) Oakland 2014:
    Med.light color; pleasant raspberry/Zin/cranberry rather earthy/dusty bit Mendo/tomatoey light-weight nose; tart
    light raspberry/cranberry/Zin earthy/dusty/Mendo simple flavor w/ light tannins; med.long bright raspberry/
    cranberry/Zin/slight spicy rather earthy/dusty/Mendo tomatoey finish w/ light tannins; a pleasant simple little
    Zin but just that and overpriced at $27.00 (SFW&S)

  1. Forlorn-Hope Suspiro del Moro Alvarelhao SilvaspoonsVnyd/AltaMesa/Lodi (13.12%; 767 cs) 2014: Med.dark color;
    rather dusty/root cellar black cherry/plummy bit herbal/rosemary some grapey/port-like nose; soft bit herbal/
    plummy/black cherry/cola some dusty/earthy/mushroomy bit grapey/port-like flavor w/ light/smooth tannins; long
    rather plummy/black cherry some earthy/mushroomy rather grapey/port-like finish w/ light tannins; a lush
    drinkable red that speaks strong of Lodi; quite good at a good price. $24.00

  1. Bucklin Zin Bambino OldHillRanch/SonomaVlly/SonomaCnty (FieldBlend; 13.6%; 1142 cs; Plntd: 1998;
    www.BuckZin.com) Sonoma 2012
    : Dark color; deep blackberry/boysenberry/Zin light vanilla/oak spicy/peppery classic
    SonomaVlly Zin pure Zin lovely nose; bit tart/lean strong blackberry/blueberry/Zin some spicy light vanilla/oak bit
    simpler pure Zin fruit flavor w/ light bitey tannins; very long bit tart/lean more bright/simple Zin fruit/
    blackberry light vanilla/oak finish w/ light angular tannins; more simple bright Zin fruit and not the depth
    of the ancient. $25.00 (SFW&S)

  1. Bucklin Ancient OldHillRanch/SonomaVlly (Plntd: early 1880’s; FieldBlend; 15.4%; 732 cs) 2012: Dark color; very
    strong blackberry/boysenberry/Zin/very spicy bit licorice/dusty/OV bit Pagani-like slight herbal/rosemary complex
    nose; softer/richer/lusher very intense blackberry/boysenberry/Zin/very spicy/bit peppery rather dusty/OV complex
    flavor w/ ample soft/ripe tannins; very long/lingering intense blackberry/boysenberry/Zin/very spicy slight
    licorice/peppery some toasty/oak rather dusty/OV finish w/ strong soft/ripe tannins; clearly some dusty/OV
    character and greater depth & intensity & ripeness; beautiful OV Zin much like a Pagani. $34.00 (SFW&S)

  1. ErnaSchein SainteFumee “Goddess of Meat” Napa/Calif RW (70% Syrah/10%Mourvedre/10% PS/
    10% PetiteVerdot; 14.8%; www.ErnaSchein.com) 2007
    : Very dark color; strong blackberry/Syrah/boysenberry/ripe rather
    toasty/oak slight meaty/smokey nose; soft/fat/flabby/porky very ripe/Syrah/boysenberry rather toasty/oak rather
    hot/fumey/alcoholic flavor w/ light overripe tannins; long fat/plump/porky very ripe/boysenberry/Syrah/licorice/
    chocolaty hot/alcoholic strong toasty/charred/oak finish w/ light soft tannins; seems more Paso than Napa;
    a classic over-the-top Behrens & Hitchcock Syrah w/ not much interes; overpriced at $40.00 (K&L)

  1. eight arms Syrah StagecoachVnyd/NapaVlly/AtlasPeak (13.7%; www.EightArmsCellars.com) SuisunCity 2006: Very dark/
    near black color; ripe Syrah/blackberry/boysenberry/framboise/licorice slight spicy/peppery attractive/ripe nose;
    soft/rich/lush strong ripe/blackberry/boysenberry/Syrah/framboise/licorice loads of toasty/oak flavor w/ moodest
    ripe/soft tannins; long ripe/boysenberry/blackberry/Syrah/framboise strong toasty/charred/oak finish w/ some
    soft/ripe tannins; a bit on the soft/soupy side & quite ripe but somewhat interesting. $35.00

  1. Favia Quarzo Syrah ShakeRidgeVnyd/Amador (14.8%; www.FaviaWines.com) FaviaErickson Winegrower/StHelena
    2005
    : Dark color; very strong blackberry/briary/Amador/boysenberry/very spicy light toasty/oak lovely nose; bit
    tart ripe/briary/blackberry/Syrah/boysenberry/licorice some toasty/oak flavor w/ modest ripe/smooth tannins;
    very long ripe/boysenberry/blackberry/Syrah/very spicy/briary/Amador modeest toasty/charred/oak finish w/ some
    soft/ripe tannins; quite a good ShakeRidge Syrah that speaks of Amador but way overpriced for what it is.
    $65.00 (WH/SB)

  1. AlbanVnyd Syrah Lorraine AlbanEstate/EdnaVlly (15.6%) 2001: Very dark/black color w/ no bricking; rather stinky/
    sewer gas/reduced/outhouse nose that clears to intense boysenberry/blackberry/Syrah quite toasty/charred/burnt/oak
    slight complex very primary very intense nose; rather tart very strong charred/burnt/smokey/oak intense boysenberry/
    blackberry/Syrah/very ripe textured/mouthfilling flavor w/ light/bitey tannins; very long very strong burnt/charred/
    toasty/oak intense boysenberry/blackberry/Syrah/very ripe bit complex very primary finish w/ light/angular tannins;
    a classic intense/extracted Alban Syrah that has yrs to go.

  1. AlbanVnyd Pandora Seymour’sVnyd/EdnaVlly (15.9%; Grenache/Syrah) 2001: Very dark/near black color w/ no bricking;
    some reduced/ozone/sewer gas nose clears to rather Grenache/boysenberry/blackberry/Syrah/peppery strong smokey/
    charred/burnt/oak more fragrant/perfumed/slightly brighter more complex nose; very strong charred/burnt/oak very
    strong Grenache/strawberry/boysenberry/Syrah/blackberry fairly tart some complex flavor w/ light/gentle tannins;
    very long strong charred/burnt/toasty/smokey/oak intense Grenache/strawberry/boysenberry/blackberry/Syrah rich/
    textured finish w/ light/smooth tannins; very much like the Syrahs but a bit brighter fruit from the Grenache;
    still very primary and not much complexity developed; tannins are fully resolved.

  1. AlbanVnyd Syrah Seymour’sVnyd/EdnaVlly (15.8%) 2001: Black color w/ no bricking; very strong ozone/reduced/
    sewer gas/diaper pail nose clears to very intense boysenberry/blackberry/Syrah/roasted meats very strong charred/
    burnt/toasty/oak rather pungent/licorice/peppery some complex nose; very intense boysenberry/blackberry/Syrah/
    framboise/licorice/peppery very strong burnt/charred/oak bit complex flavor w/ some smooth/ripe tannins; very long/
    lingering strong burnt/charred/oak/smokey very intense boysenberry/blackberry/Syrah/peppery/licorice/smoked meats
    bit complex finish w/ some smooth/ripe tannins; much like the Lorraine but much more interesting and not the sharp/
    bitey tannins; still very primary and yrs to go.

Stuff from TheBloodyPulpit:

  1. Albans: These three wines were from my orphan stash lost in my garage for over 10 yrs under miserable/dreadful
    storage conditions, standing upright. The corks in them were all sound, tight, and came out w/ a struggle using
    my Ah-So. The wines show no signs whatsoever of oxidation or overheating and were still very/very primary. All
    three showed the classic Alban highly reduced stink upon opening, but soon cleared in the glass.
    These wines are progressing at a glacial pace, still very primary overripe fruit, and not a whole lot of
    complexity developing, even though the tannins seem pretty resolved. These are the kind of wines that leave me
    (and certain Monktown attourneys) shaking my head and wondering “what hath John wrought?”. It may very well be that
    these wines may ever develop that complexity one desires in old Syrahs. These may very well go to their grave
    still being very primary wines. I think back to the Qupe Hillside Syrah '01 I had not so long ago. That wine could
    not hold a candle to these Albans in the intensity arena. But it showed way/way more balance and complexity than
    these Albans ever will and was vastly more of a pleasure to drink, not to mention one 3’rd the cost. I guess I
    hold no regrets for being dumped from the Alban mailing list. I can find more Syrah pleasure elsewhere.

  1. LeInfantsTerribles: This LIT Zin (and Grenache) are MikeDashe’s foray into natural wines and his pandering to
    the SweetAlice crowd. I far/far prefer his regular DryCreek Zin to this. I give up…no more LIT for me.

  1. Bucklin Zins: Will Bucklin, owner/farmer of the famed OldHillRanch continues to make some of the best, most solid,
    SonomaVlly Zins but seems to fly underneath everybody’s radar. It’s always interesting to taste the Bambino and
    the Ancient together to wrap your mind around what dusty/OV character is. There’s quite a big difference in
    alcohol levels betwixt these two which clutters things up a bit. I assume these were harvested at about the same
    time and the higher alcohol in the Ancient reflects a greatly diminshed yield in the Ancient. Will’s style at
    Bucklin reminds me more of Bedrock than of Ravenswood’s. I’d like to see what Mike or Morgan could do w/ these
    grapes.

  1. 8Arms: This is the wine of IainBoltin. He now makes his wine at DasheCllrs in Oakland. I liked this wine rather
    well. However, I’m not convinced that the StageCoach Vnyd of the Krupp family is all that good a vnyd.

  1. Favia: Thiis was my first experience w/ a Favia wine. The grapes come from AnnKraemer’s ShakeRidge vnyd above
    AmadorCity. This is at a lower elevation than the ShenandoahVlly I believe, further South, in rugged mountainous
    terrain. It is, indeed, one of the premier vnyds in AmadorCnty and a beautiful property. I liked the wine quite
    a lot but it’s clear you gotta pay thru the nose for the Erickson name on the label.
    Tom

big wines survive bad storage far better than lighter ones for sure. amazing how well those albans showed their youthfulness.

Tom, if you are not impressed with the Stagecoach Vineyard, I recommend the Krupp Bros. Black Bart Syrah. Although I have only tasted the 2004 and 2005 vintages, they were both very solid mocha/earthy Syrahs with enough fruit for balance. Just my opinion…

Tom, agree completely on Bucklin, OldHill, and hopes on Morgan getting those grapes someday. I think it’s not that far-fetched since Constellation seems more versed at selling Vintner’s Blend Chardonnay than Ancient Field Blend, and Joel won’t be there forever, but only time will tell.

Well, Drew…the Krupp’s BlackBart and their white Rhones were the wines that sorta triggered my being down on StageCoach. I had probably two BlackBarts
early on and thought them pleasant enough…but just that and definitely not worth the tariff. Didn’t think they held a candle to the Lagier-Meredith…which iis
a pretty high bar, I’ll admit.
Tom

I appreciated reading your notes on Bucklin. Was in Sonoma Co in May and a visit to Bucklin was one of the highlights of the trip.

Still need to try Lagier Meredith. I love Mt Veeder red wine.

I have enjoyed several bottles of Old Hill from Peterson’s RW bottlings. It’s my brother’s favorite wine. I bought a Bambino 2004 and Ancient Vines 2003(?) back in 05/06. Both were really funky and off-tasting. I have resolved to give Bucklin another shot, as I now presume that something was wrong with my first bottles. I really want to try the Grenache, too.

Sewer gas and outhouse, sounds awesome

Jesus Tom…I think you LOST more Alban wines in your garage than I have in my cellar!! Must be some big ass garage?? :astonished: