TN: Allemand Chaillot survey (2000, 2006, 2008-2015, 2017)

ALLEMAND CHAILLOT SURVEY - Chicago, IL (5/4/2023)

Wines listed in the order tasted. Turns out, I really like Allemand.

  • 2017 Thierry Allemand Cornas Chaillot - France, Rhône, Northern Rhône, Cornas
    Initially, I really, really loved this -- it was showing such exuberant red and black fruit, bright florals, and just a slight tinge of the classic syrah salinity, pepper, and olive (there's gotta be some word to describe the collection of those flavours). Fresh and elegant, with a lightness and elegance that is bolstered by the intense minerality here. Coming back to this at the end of the dinner though, it was clear that this didn't have quite the same length as some of the other wines. (I also want to point out that the variability in impressions over just a few hours means you should take all my notes with a giant hunk of Himalayan pink salt.) (93 points)
  • 2015 Thierry Allemand Cornas Chaillot - France, Rhône, Northern Rhône, Cornas
    Can't believe it's been so long since I last tasted this. This is very dark in complexion, with more of a black-fruited, plummy character, but the fruit isn't on full display here. There's a lot of leathery qualities as well, and the palate is very large-scaled. Not as fruit-forward and elegant as many of the other wines, this is a brooding, somewhat monolithic wine right now, but it's pretty clear that there's good material and potential. Not the most interesting of vintages to open right now. I'll also note that my 2018 note had this with distinctly red fruit -- I didn't find that to be the case at all today. (95 points)
  • 2011 Thierry Allemand Cornas Chaillot - France, Rhône, Northern Rhône, Cornas
    In my mind, this is the weakest wine that Allemand made in the 2010s (yeesh, I write this every time I have it like a broken record). There's a green stemminess to it (somewhat reminiscent of 2004 red Burgundy, but nowhere as offensive), and the palate has always come off very light and lacking in weight to me. This bottle wasn't too different from those experiences. The fruit is light and wispy, very much more red than black, and there's a thinness that the other wines didn't have. The acidity shows quite a bit here too. (90 points)
  • 2014 Thierry Allemand Cornas Chaillot - France, Rhône, Northern Rhône, Cornas
    A distinctively white-peppered nose, this comes across almost a little St. Joseph-like with that aroma and general lightness on the palate. Like the 2011, this is a relatively thinner wine, not showing the weight or the intensity of fruit as the other vintages. The profile is distinctly red-fruited, and like the 2011, this is a vintage that feels very much driven by its acidity. Drinking nicely now and with a nascent sense of resolution; probably one to polish off sooner than later. (90 points)
  • 2012 Thierry Allemand Cornas Chaillot - France, Rhône, Northern Rhône, Cornas
    There was a lot of debate at the table as to whether the 2012 or 2013 was preferred (they were served side-by-side). I waffled on this myself, as I thought the 2012 was showing very well right now as a wine for drinking. Ultimately, the longer-term potential rests with the 2013. But for now, the 2012 drinks like a less intense, more resolved, and less tannic version of the 2015. With air, some more olive/saline notes emerge on the nose. The fruit is rounded and plush, on the black side of the spectrum. There's modestly leathery tannins here, but not an overbearing amount. The ripe fruit gives this a sensation of sweetness that I quite like as well (me with the Parkerized palate these days, after all). A really good drinking vintage right now, but there's definitely enough fruit and tannin here that you would be rewarded for further aging this. And despite how well I liked this tonight, I'm inclined to age my bottles a little more. (93 points)
  • 2013 Thierry Allemand Cornas Chaillot - France, Rhône, Northern Rhône, Cornas
    This felt quite structural today, and not as open and plush as I remembered this wine being. It doesn't really surprise me that this might have just been in a bit of an awkward stage right now. In any case, next to the black-fruited, leathery 2012, this is much more red-fruited and minerally, with more of an acid cut, and plenty more fine-grained tannins. It's a little hard to really enjoy right now, but there's a lot of upside here, even if this comes across as a more "granitic" iteration of Chaillot (or Cuvée C). (93 points)
  • 2009 Thierry Allemand Cornas Chaillot - France, Rhône, Northern Rhône, Cornas
    It was a bit controversial at the table, but I personally found this to be drinking better than the 2010 tonight. That's not to say that this was the better wine, but just that it was far more open for business today. It's definitely a heart-on-its-sleeve edition with very ripe, plush fruit on both the nose and palate, and yet it never goes over the top. There's plenty of classic syrah notes here, and while others at the table found the alcohol sticking out a bit, I thought this wine, albeit very large-scaled, to be very much in balance. And despite all the fruit here, there's still that silky Allemand texture (which, really, was in all the wines tonight, but is repetitive for me to write). (95 points)
  • 2010 Thierry Allemand Cornas Chaillot - France, Rhône, Northern Rhône, Cornas
    I don't think it was any surprise to anyone that this was going to be one of the wines of the night, even before we got around to tasting it. And of course, a superlative wine it is. It's a little structural and not as giving as the 2009 (which I preferred for the sheer enjoyment of drinking right now), but in my mind it's inordinately obvious that this is a legendary wine in the making, along the lines of the 2010 Chave and Jamet. So in some sense, this wine merely met expectations. It's a mix of red and black fruit, and interestingly slightly more feral than what I typically associate with Allemand. Sturdy structure that feels like it's got a good decade before it softens, and only modest saline/meat/olive/smoke notes right now. A wine of potential right now, but it's so exciting to experience it. (98 points)
  • 2008 Thierry Allemand Cornas Chaillot - France, Rhône, Northern Rhône, Cornas
    2008 was, of course, considered a weaker vintage, but the wines of Jamet, Chave, and of course, Allemand are anything but. This certainly shows the cooler side of the vintage, with more red fruit and acidity, and a generally lighter, more acid-driven palate that doesn't have the breadth and length as many of the other vintages. For my palate, this is fully mature and ready to enjoy now; I'm not thinking there's too much upside for further aging, because I do enjoy having a modicum of primary fruit still in my wine. (93 points)
  • 2006 Thierry Allemand Cornas Chaillot - France, Rhône, Northern Rhône, Cornas
    Nothing like the bottle tasted a fortnight ago. I suspected a bit of TCA, but also it seemed like there was some heat damage as well. (NR/flawed)
  • 2000 Thierry Allemand Cornas Chaillot - France, Rhône, Northern Rhône, Cornas
    That's the stuff. Fully mature and drinking so well right now. This is almost as good as it gets for syrah, and because this is Allemand, the thing that sticks out most is that luxuriously silky texture on the palate. There's red fruit on the nose, without too prominent any of the smoke/blood/olive/brine stuff going on, and yet this is unmistakably syrah at the same time. On the palate, there's more red fruit (even though it's a little lean and tart), and fully resolved tannins. Stunning stuff, even in the context of Allemand. (98 points)
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I completely agree with you on the 2011. The one vintage since 2003 that I think Allemand just didn’t get right. Neither the Reynard nor the Chaillot has ever shown well for me. Am surprised the 09 showed that well - I’ve always found that wine to be massive and in need of at least another decade. Whereas I’ve always loved the 2014 as a redux of the 04. Perhaps we should do an Reynard survey….

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Jesu Cristo, what a night!!! Fantastic notes.

I blew the 09 and 10 back then, loaded up on Clape over Allemand, as I knew the former well and was just learning about the latter.

As I look around to backfill…

Wow, proper jealous!

My first Allemand was a 2011 (don’t even remember which one).

It was just strangely green and i didn’t get the hype at all. A Balthazar next to it was just much better.

Then i tasted the 2016 Chaillot around release and later a 1999 Chaillot… damn those are wines that will make a grown up cry. So good!
I regret not buying the few bottles i had the possibility to buy at decent prices between tasting the 2011 and 2016.

What a lineup! Had an '05 Chaillot a couple months ago that was in the zone.

Regarding '11s, if you can get your hands on a sound bottle of Sans Soufre, it’s a noticeable step up (including from the regular '11 Reynard bottling). Gorgeously perfumed with a depth on the palate that the '11 Chaillot and (to a lesser extent) Reynard are lacking.

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It looks like 12 or 13 years of age is when they start to hit their stride?

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Love the notes, and love Allemand. Holding my precious few bottles for special occasions. I did have the 08 Chaillot and Reynard last December side by side they they were both fantastic. I thought the Chaillot was showing a bit better that night-more open and ready. Never had a sans soufre before. Hopefully someday.

great notes and a great dinner. The food and venue were stellar. I loved the wines and have a new respect for Chaillots. I liked the 14 more than you and maybe the 12 a little less. I also loved the 10 but maybe a touch less.

We had the 2010 Allemand Chaillot and the 2010 Paris la Geynale side by side at a tasting last Saturday. Allemand was shining at a level that made la Geynale seem totally indifferent

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Definitely agree the 09 is massive, but I’ve always liked it for being a Parkerized fruit bomb version of Allemand. No doubt this has very good long-term aging potential; I wish I owned more than the scant few I have.

Interesting take on the 2004/2014 comparison – vintage-wise I can see the similarity, but I also get the sense that the wines at Allemand post ~2005 get a bit more polish (or maybe they just taste way younger).

Backfill prices… where have I heard that story before?

Clape and Allemand are for me the two sides of Cornas. Clape is for Bordeaux drinkers, Allemand is for Burgundy drinkers (thanks Salil). Have you had 2010 Clape? It’s also a pretty incredible bottle too.

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Really unlucky to have started with 2011. I would have found myself questioning what all the fuss was about too. 2016 Allemand is insanely good and might even best the 2010 with time (seems like you went from worst to best!). It’s more red fruit than a mix of red and black in the 2010.

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Yeah, for me, I’ve never thought of the Reynard as the better cuvee. It’s just a different one. Chaillot more open-knit, Reynard more brooding and stern. Which one is better can depend on the vintage.

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In fairness, 2010 was very early on in Paris’s career. His wines have been getting better year over year.

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I have some 2010 Reynards. It is stunning so not surprised at your Chaillot here. Beautiful notes on a singular Cornas.

A very astute comparison. Should not surprise that I grew up on Bordeaux, and Clape as my Northern Rhone reference. But then again, back then in Florida it was very hard to find the geeky stuff that you and Salil love. I have a small cachet of 2007, 2009 and 2010 Clape, but have not started to pop them yet. I recall seeing your very favorable note on the 2010 but not very kind comments on the 2009, unless I have them reversed.

Yeah that’s right – loved the 2010 Clape (so much so I bought some after having it the first time), not so keen on the 2009.

To me the polish starts around 04, and yes, I think the wines are much better for it. They’re more rustic before that. And I love the 04.

The other thing that came to my mind as we were drinking these was how consistent the wines were. Much less vintage variation than I’m used too.

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