TN: 2000 Bordeaux _ A chance to check in on them

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#1

@000 BORDEAUX _ A CHANCE TO CHECK IN ON THEM - Vic’s (12/3/2009)

My tasting group got together to try some of the better B2K wines. At 9 years from vintage, this was a good chance to evaluate and plan for the next five years. Most were still tight and need more time. The ones that are open are really drinking well now but have along future ahead of them. The wines were sampled, blind, over two hours or so. Bread and cheeses were served along side.
A couple white Burgs to start
Ah, the dichotomy of white Burgundy.

  • 2006 Louis Carillon Puligny-Montrachet 1er Cru Les Combettes - France, Burgundy, Côte de Beaune, Puligny-Montrachet 1er Cru
    Light golden in color. Beautiful wine. This is a reason to drink white Burgs. I may have even been a point stingy on the score. Great complex nose of lemons, minerals, and grapefruit. Medium to full body. Great acidity. Besides the usual lemon chiffon on the palate, there is this mandarin orange note that is very pretty. Great clean finish. One of the best young white Burgs I have had in a while. Now, will it develop safely? (93 pts.)
  • 2002 Domaine Francois et Antoine Jobard Meursault 1er Cru Genevrières - France, Burgundy, Côte de Beaune, Meursault 1er Cru
    Everything I don’t like about White Burgs. I guessed 02 while the group was guessing in the 90’s. I have drunk too many Burgs that drink older than they should. Perhaps the first stages or pre-mox as it was not beyond drinking, but the fruit is gone. Lots of vanilla creme and oak left. Not much else. Lots of heat on the finish. I probably over rated this one. (85 pts.)

B2K:

  • 2000 Château Grand-Puy-Lacoste - France, Bordeaux, Médoc, Pauillac
    Got better all night long. Purple in color, ruby at the rim. This is tight. With air some funk and cassi show up. Great texture. Black raspberries and a nice streak of acidity. It seems to be complex but is oh so tight. Wait 5 years but show lots of potential. (90 pts.)
  • 2000 Château Beychevelle - France, Bordeaux, Médoc, St. Julien
    Ruby/purple in color. The nose has a slight funk with iodine, dust and cassis. Silky texture. Sweet fruit. Good acidity. Showing more complex than most on the table. Some tannins. My first pass thru the wines, this was my favorite but as others started to open, this stayed steady. Ready to start drinking these but there is no hurry, just shy of peak I think. This was the group’s WOTN. (91 pts.)
  • 2000 Château Monbousquet - France, Bordeaux, Libournais, St. Émilion Grand Cru
    As it turned out, the only right banker in the bunch. Inky purple with a ruby rim. The nose has cassis, tobacco, cherries. On the palate, sweet raspberries and cherries. Tons of oak. Long but drying finish. Nice enough, but the oak was troublesome for me. (88 pts.)
  • 2000 Château Calon-Ségur - France, Bordeaux, Médoc, St. Estèphe
    Ruby in color, mostly opaque and bright. The nose is dusty with cassis and tobacco. nice texture. Medium tannins. Black raspberries on the palate. Some heat. got better but this is still tight. Needs a few more years. (91 pts.)
  • 2000 Château Lanessan - France, Bordeaux, Médoc, Haut-Médoc
    Impressive showing. I know that historically, these need time, but this was very good. Sure, it was tight, but it seems to have great sturcture and stuffing. It kept improving all night long. If you have a bunch, I would decant a few hours. Its worth trying now. Still years from peaking. Lots of cassis, plums and some raspberries. (92 pts.)
  • 2000 Château Gruaud Larose - France, Bordeaux, Médoc, St. Julien
    I suspected this was the Gruaud due to the funk. I thought this was cleaned up, but this bottle had some. I love that so I didn’t care. My WOTN but the groups #3. Purple/ruby in color, slightly flat. The nose has funk, tobacco and cassis. Complex with medium tannins. Cassis and graphite on the palate. Long finish. Nice texture. (93 pts.)
  • 2000 Château Pichon-Longueville Baron - France, Bordeaux, Médoc, Pauillac
    Purple/ruby in color. Very tight and not giving much up. Nice texture. Some plums emerge with air. The finish was scratchy at first but smoothed out with air. Wait 5 years to try again. Seems like good stuff though too tight. (91 pts.)
  • 2000 Château Pontet-Canet - France, Bordeaux, Médoc, Pauillac
    A disappointing showing for this bottle. The nose showed dust and tobacco but not much fruit. It seemed a bit soft and while quite tight, seemed to have tight layers. Charries and black raspberries on the palate. Started to open and come together after two hours. Five more years I guess. (88 pts.)

Dessert:

  • 1963 Sandeman Porto Vintage - Portugal, Douro, Porto
    Light ruby in color. The nose has some light cherries. Not much fruit left in this bottle. Its ok, but the heat on the finish is distracting. Some liked it better than I, one person saying it still had some youth. I did not get it. It was interesting, but seemed a bit tired to me. I don’t drink that many older VP’s though. (88 pts.)

A very fun evening. Thanks to Vic for hosting in his lovely new place! Looking forward to a good new year with all of you!
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We recently tasted through some of these and found a similar situation as you describe overall.

In general, I would categorize the better wines of 2000 as being still very tight with no hints of secondary notes and (for me) not worth considering for another 5 years and more likely 10+. This is going to be a vintage that makes very old bones. The acidity combined with the fruit will keep this vintage alive for years after many of us have departed IMO.

I hear some comparisons to 05, but my experience is that 05 is generally like 00, but more of everything which makes them a little more approachable younger IMO. However, like 00, I expect the secondary notes of the 05’s to not show up until close to 2025. Time will tell.

Thanks for the notes!

Chris

#3

Way to take a bunch for the team, Loren!

I have only about half a dozen 2000’s in the cellar, so I would rather read others’ notes on them as to whether or not they are ready to go…don’t have enough to risk testing them out myself!

#4

Great notes, Loren. Highly entertaining. Excellent to have a look at these wines. I’ve got some lower level stuff I want to check over the next year from the 2000s, but sounds like the classified growths are years away for the most part.

#5

Thanks for the notes. Like Todd, I only have about a half-dozen in the cellar and appreciate the review.
I am a little concerned, however, about the '02 Jobard, but knowing the vintage and the vintner expect them to open up in a couple of years. The '01 Bourgogne and Meursault en la Barre are showing quite well now.

#6

A sad but predictable showing. I’m starting to wonder is 00 is going to be another 95…great potential but never letting us in.

#7

It’s only 9 years so far, Sax.

Just stop doing all that ‘stupid shit’ you say is gonna kill you one day, and stick around until you can drink your '00’s, THEN commence with the ‘stupid shit’.

#8

I never thought of that. [thankyou.gif]

BTW, for someone who drinks, you have a good memory.

#9

must be my big ass head

#10

great notes…thanks. That’s a tough showing for the Monbo. Was there any decant before or during ?