Tipping in addition to included service charge

I have reservations at a restaurant that has this posted on its website:

A 22% service charge is added to your bill to create equity and stability in our industry. The entire service charge added to your bill is for our hourly team members and 100% is used for their compensation. Should you wish to acknowledge the team for an exceptional experience, we have included an optional gratuity line. Any gratuity left is distributed among all hourly team members in the dining room and kitchen, who also create your dining experience. Enjoy and thank you for joining us.

My usual routine is to tip 25-30%. My first instinct would be to add another 3-8% to the included 22%. In the absence of an included service charge, a 3-8% tip would be a sign of displeasure or seen as insulting. Any reason to think that would be the case here?

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When I dine at these type of places I handle it exactly as you do. Have never seen any indication that I’d caused displeasure/insulted.

I can’t imagine it would be seen as insulting, you are going above and beyond the already generous 22%. I was formerly ITB so I typically go 25-30% as well but I think for the average dinner it is closer to 15-18% (and is closer to what I see when gratuity is added to larger parties).

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If a server is insulted by 3-8% on top of the 22% then there’s somethign wrong at their end - either they don’t understand that they’re getting 22% or management isn’t in fact providing that to servers

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I just had this experience last night. I decided to tip 20% on top of the 20% service charge, then read online that 3-8% is considered generous. Interested to get others’ perspective.

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Agree with the perspective that any amount above the 22% should be characterized as recognition of exceptional experience, not trueing up to cover some gap in the establishment’s employee compensation plan.

We went to The Inn at Little Washington this summer and they have an all-in policy with the gratuity added to the bill. They also have a policy of not presenting a check/bill at the table if you are a guest at the Inn. You simply vacate when you are done with your meal experience. I had forgotten this aspect and was really starting to worry that we had missed something. In that circumstance, the amount they added on automatically was within a few dollars of what I would have been inclined to tip, so I just let the whole thing stand. They did include the wine in the total for calculating the automatic gratuity, which helped the number get where I would have put it. The whole experience was excellent, by the way. Much recommended if you can afford it.

Cheers,
fred

May I offer you another drink Sir??

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Thanks all. Opinions so far seem aligned with my gut reaction.

Our daughter was ITB some time ago. Offered a different perspective on the food service business and why we tip on the generous side.

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I’m just glad they are explicit about the service charge being an actual employee compensation item. There are so many playing games with the language or straight up just complaining about costs to actually have employees that it can be confusing and even off putting. I hope responsible restaurants will continue to adopt the attitude and clarity of the message in the top post.

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David, I think you are being your usual gracious and generous self here. I think you are being overly fair and generous and in a way that I would definitely embrace. I like the numbers there. Of course, that is based on you getting excellent service.

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I think you have it right, David. I would view the 22% as the start line of my tip (not zero) and add something to get to whatever I felt was appropriate.

Cris,
I think some of the lingo is a legal dance of compliance and trying to run a business, make a profit and compensate your employees fairly. Regulatory aspects make this more difficult than it should be.

Agree, and while 22% is generous it is not outrageously so. Much better than places that add, say 8% to cover some aspect of employee compensation but leave you wondering if that’s a baseline tip or if you should entirely disregard it and tip your normal percentage.

My hope is that this will all evolve to standardized service charges . . .and then even better the European model of including service (though I realize that is creeping away).

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I seriously doubt this. I believe in most cases when there is confusing language it is purposely that way because the business is either hiding the fact that they are adding a profit while trying to make a political complaint or want the latitude to distribute(or not) the money as they please. Being clear and succinct as in the top post alleviates all of that and is never that difficult regardless of whatever regulations are in place. But you have to want the ā€˜service charge’ money to end up with your employees in the first place.

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Sounds like the percent above 22 is spread around to everyone, so your actual server probably gets just a few percent of going above the 22.
Not that they don’t share anyways, just hard to know what’s going on here.
I’d just add what you are comfortable with because they must have a system that works for them figured out in house.

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I don’t get the difference between simply charging the right amount on the menu etc that covers all the costs, food, wages, rent etc. Why hive off part of the cost as separate charge? What’s next, a ā€œbutcher surchargeā€ - ā€œour butcher refuses to deliver meat at the prices we’ve built into our menu so we are adding 20% to ensure our meat supplies continueā€

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An automatic tip added to the bill is about as close as we are going to get to all in pricing.

We’ve boxed ourselves in to a tip economy due to minimum wage exceptions, regulations and standard practices. The consumer is not the issue. It’s the workers who will jump to a tipped environment if that better suits them. Most who have tried stand menu prices here have not succeeded

Just about every restaurant in the New Orleans area, at all price points, are adding a 3% charge for the privilege of using a credit card.

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Yep, this is where we’re at in the US, boxed in. We add 18% to the check as a service charge and 5-10% gets added on as gratuity that only goes to the servers, the rest we distribute among our hourly workers. In order to make our servers eligible to receive the service charge, we have to pay them minimum wage, not the exception, and it also counts towards gross sales, so it adds to our bottom line and tax burden.

We put it clearly in a different color ink and a larger font on the menu, but still people complain. There is NFW the US ever moves to an all-in pricing at restaurants. If Danny Meyer couldn’t make it work, no one can.

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In my experience, you are wrong about this.