Any thoughts on Tino Kuban’s wines?
Anyone here tasted any of them?
Yes. The Jardins Aligotes are insane!
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Ever tried l’Origine Planete?
which one is that? I don’t recall. It is so confusing with the two different domain names and all of the other stuff around him. As I said the Aligotes are incredible!
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stick to the whites are my general experience (if you’re going to buy one). The reds have been all over the place for me (especially with glandien)
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I second this. I had a couple over the summer and they were lights out. I will have some again in a couple weeks. Can’t wait.
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It’s the one produced instead of Reipes in 2022 
The negoce wines are interesting to buy at the correct price. Not secondary market.
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That makes sense
i was recently reading an article by neal martin and found this tidbit very amusing. feels a touch relevant here…
This underlines why many domaines have decreased their négociant activity, why Anne Morey did not produce any whites under her Morey Blanc label in 2022 and why one of Artémis Domaines’ first decisions was to terminate buying contracted fruit for Bouchard Père & Fils, another factor that potentially increases supply since all that fruit has to find new homes. Some producers almost completely rely on contracted fruit, Benjamin Leroux and Camille Giroud, two well-respected examples, plus a large shoal of micro-négociants that swam into the Côte d’Or in the last two or three years. Some, like Maison Harbour in Savigny-lès-Beaune and those two I have just mentioned, are clearly driven by passion and have been in the game long enough to build stable, mutually beneficial long-term contracts. For others, it seems more like an ego trip with inflated prices matching their hubris, nurturing their image and mirage of scarcity on social media. It’s up to you what you buy, whether the label is more important than the wine. Thankfully, more consumers are wising up to substandard wines from arrivistes with unearned reputations that use scarcity to justify premiums, parsing them from genuinely exciting new prospects that represent tomorrow’s stars.
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He was a good friend of mine coming up in wine. Really meticulous and nerdy. Worked at Overnoy, Tournelle, and L’Horizon. I love drinking my friends wines, but what m_ristev quotes really seems apt. Hes as good at making wines as he is at making people not like him.
I had a dream last night weirdlt about the first time I visited the domaine after his family purchased it from Bernard Van Berg in 2018? We were reading through Bernard’s wine journal and I was impressed how he/people used to write about wine. Somehow that led to me checking wineberserkers for the first time in years 
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I have also had some great experiences with the recent domaine whites, though I’ve had less exposure to the reds and the Maison Glandien wines.
The domaine vineyards are really meticulously tended and look impeccable every year, even in 2024. Tino also does an impressive job producing such precise wines considering he’s vinifying such small volumes. That isn’t easy.
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