Thomas 2019

[Marcus_Goodfellow]

SEC Wines has been a good source for Thomas and offers a keen eye for other interesting domestic and international wines.

Yes, Eric does a great job and is one of my favorite wine people(just a really good guy, great palate, and super knowledgeable). I didn’t know if he took an allocation from John or not.

[Marcus_Goodfellow]

You can also buy Thomas from Avalon wine, Mt. Tabor Fine Wines(unless Sandy sold the shop and John altered the allocation), Liner & Elsen, and Oregon Wines on Broadway. Most will want to to buy other things as well(not necessarily require it, but they do tend to hold it for regular customers).

Marcus, if you don’t mind me asking, how does John’s style compare with yours? I’ve yet to have any Thomas.

Interesting question. I feel our goals in balance and elegance are very similar. John’s wines are rarely heavy.

For differences, some things that come to mind are:

Thomas is Dundee Hills, but the vineyard is on a small bit of sedimentary soil(I believe) that is rare in the Dundee Hills. Durant is 100% volcanic, and deeper soils. John’s wines are more red fruited in youth than the Durant. For my sedimentary soil based wines, Whistling Ridge gets more wind and less heat, it’s perhaps more like John’s wines but with a bit less fruit and more tannin. Fir Crest is Yamhill-Carlton, and a different series of soils, also not all sedimentary and a bit warmer than John’s vineyard. And Temperance Hill is way, way windier than Thomas, it’s also higher elevation and probably has more akin to Barbaresco than Thomas(kidding a bit, but hopefully that illustrates the difference).

[DaveStandridge]

You can also buy Thomas from Avalon wine, Mt. Tabor Fine Wines(unless Sandy sold the shop and John altered the allocation), Liner & Elsen, and Oregon Wines on Broadway. Most will want to to buy other things as well(not necessarily require it, but they do tend to hold it for regular customers).

Marcus, if you don’t mind me asking, how does John’s style compare with yours? I’ve yet to have any Thomas.

Interesting question. I feel our goals in balance and elegance are very similar. John’s wines are rarely heavy.

For differences, some things that come to mind are:

Thomas is Dundee Hills, but the vineyard is on a small bit of sedimentary soil(I believe) that is rare in the Dundee Hills. Durant is 100% volcanic, and deeper soils. John’s wines are more red fruited in youth than the Durant. For my sedimentary soil based wines, Whistling Ridge gets more wind and less heat, it’s perhaps more like John’s wines but with a bit less fruit and more tannin. Fir Crest is Yamhill-Carlton, and a different series of soils, also not all sedimentary and a bit warmer than John’s vineyard. And Temperance Hill is way, way windier than Thomas, it’s also higher elevation and probably has more akin to Barbaresco than Thomas(kidding a bit, but hopefully that illustrates the difference).

Awesome info, appreciated!

[Scott_Tallman]

You can also buy Thomas from Avalon wine, Mt. Tabor Fine Wines(unless Sandy sold the shop and John altered the allocation), Liner & Elsen, and Oregon Wines on Broadway. Most will want to to buy other things as well(not necessarily require it, but they do tend to hold it for regular customers).

Marcus, if you don’t mind me asking, how does John’s style compare with yours? I’ve yet to have any Thomas.

Interesting question. I feel our goals in balance and elegance are very similar. John’s wines are rarely heavy.

For differences, some things that come to mind are:

Thomas is Dundee Hills, but the vineyard is on a small bit of sedimentary soil(I believe) that is rare in the Dundee Hills. Durant is 100% volcanic, and deeper soils. John’s wines are more red fruited in youth than the Durant. For my sedimentary soil based wines, Whistling Ridge gets more wind and less heat, it’s perhaps more like John’s wines but with a bit less fruit and more tannin. Fir Crest is Yamhill-Carlton, and a different series of soils, also not all sedimentary and a bit warmer than John’s vineyard. And Temperance Hill is way, way windier than Thomas, it’s also higher elevation and probably has more akin to Barbaresco than Thomas(kidding a bit, but hopefully that illustrates the difference).

You failed to mention you’re much easier to find than John.

Interesting note about Temperance Hill and Barbaresco that I hadn’t connected the dots on before. But John does have some Nebbiolo that he grew from cuttings from JP. Time to expand the portfolio to TH Nebbiolo?

[James_Lyon]

Marcus, if you don’t mind me asking, how does John’s style compare with yours? I’ve yet to have any Thomas.

Interesting question. I feel our goals in balance and elegance are very similar. John’s wines are rarely heavy.

For differences, some things that come to mind are:

Thomas is Dundee Hills, but the vineyard is on a small bit of sedimentary soil(I believe) that is rare in the Dundee Hills. Durant is 100% volcanic, and deeper soils. John’s wines are more red fruited in youth than the Durant. For my sedimentary soil based wines, Whistling Ridge gets more wind and less heat, it’s perhaps more like John’s wines but with a bit less fruit and more tannin. Fir Crest is Yamhill-Carlton, and a different series of soils, also not all sedimentary and a bit warmer than John’s vineyard. And Temperance Hill is way, way windier than Thomas, it’s also higher elevation and probably has more akin to Barbaresco than Thomas(kidding a bit, but hopefully that illustrates the difference).

You failed to mention you’re much easier to find than John.

Interesting note about Temperance Hill and Barbaresco that I hadn’t connected the dots on before. But John does have some Nebbiolo that he grew from cuttings from JP. Time to expand the portfolio to TH Nebbiolo?

The Thomas Vineyard is composed of volcanic and sedimentary soils which was John’s preference when looking for the site. I’m not familiar with the exact location of the Fir Crest Vineyard, but I would think that the other vineyards are higher elevation, definitely Temperance Hill and Whistling Ridge. Also, I don’t recall the grade elevation being that steep at Thomas when compared to Whistling Ridge or Temperance Hill. It’s an interesting site and not one that I would immediately think Dundee Hills. Lower elevation, mixed soil composition, on the back side of Dundee Hills, etc.

I received the Mt. Tabor email about 3-4 weeks ago regarding the Thomas release, so they definitely received an allocation.

[Len_Stevens]

Check was sent off today for The Full Monty. Normally I’m pretty good at showing patience when I receive vino in the mail, but I suspect it will be a struggle when this arrives.

[Marcus_Goodfellow]

Interesting question. I feel our goals in balance and elegance are very similar. John’s wines are rarely heavy.

For differences, some things that come to mind are:

Thomas is Dundee Hills, but the vineyard is on a small bit of sedimentary soil(I believe) that is rare in the Dundee Hills. Durant is 100% volcanic, and deeper soils. John’s wines are more red fruited in youth than the Durant. For my sedimentary soil based wines, Whistling Ridge gets more wind and less heat, it’s perhaps more like John’s wines but with a bit less fruit and more tannin. Fir Crest is Yamhill-Carlton, and a different series of soils, also not all sedimentary and a bit warmer than John’s vineyard. And Temperance Hill is way, way windier than Thomas, it’s also higher elevation and probably has more akin to Barbaresco than Thomas(kidding a bit, but hopefully that illustrates the difference).

You failed to mention you’re much easier to find than John.

Interesting note about Temperance Hill and Barbaresco that I hadn’t connected the dots on before. But John does have some Nebbiolo that he grew from cuttings from JP. Time to expand the portfolio to TH Nebbiolo?

The Thomas Vineyard is composed of volcanic and sedimentary soils which was John’s preference when looking for the site. I’m not familiar with the exact location of the Fir Crest Vineyard, but I would think that the other vineyards are higher elevation, definitely Temperance Hill and Whistling Ridge. Also, I don’t recall the grade elevation being that steep at Thomas when compared to Whistling Ridge or Temperance Hill. It’s an interesting site and not one that I would immediately think Dundee Hills. Lower elevation, mixed soil composition, on the back side of Dundee Hills, etc.

I received the Mt. Tabor email about 3-4 weeks ago regarding the Thomas release, so they definitely received an allocation.

Fir Crest is about 350-500 feet elevation with a SE aspect, but Y-C fruit always feels darker to me than the Dundee hills.

Whistling Ridge is about 450-500, but on the ridge top, so not much slope overall. It gets a lot more breeze than John’s place.

One thing about low gradient vineyards is that they get less direct sunlight than the vineyards on south facing slopes do. It males a real difference in keeping the wines more restrained.

[James_Guthri3]

Just received an email noting my Thomas has shipped and will arrive later this week!

[Ben_Bader]

So glad my letter from Mr. Thomas finally arrived. Check is in the mail - hope it isn’t too late!

[Shan_A]

NY full monty price $845. In.

[Tom_Lee]

My Thomas arrived today! Not sure my check has cashed but I’m sure he’ll get around to that sooner or later.

Tom

[Ryan_McMahon]

My check hasn’t been cashed either. I got nervous and asked him if he received my check, which he had. Haven’t gotten the wine yet but I live in Portland and I last year I received them on the later end of things, at least according to last years thread.

[David_Rudd]

Mine arrived today in South Carolina.

[David_Kaufman]

Has anyone had their check cashed yet?

[Aleks_V]

Has anyone had their check cashed yet?

I have not and I sent my order in two weeks ago. No idea if my wines have shipped or not as I haven’t gotten any notice. I’m dc based so always possible the mail is really slow.

[N1CKW0LF]

Anyone in the Seattle area want to part with 4 bottles? I would order direct but just want 4! Cheers!

[David_Kaufman]

Check was cashed and I received a nice note from John last Friday indicating that he was readying my shipment

[Ben_Bader]

No note, but I too just noticed that my check was cashed today. What nice news - I’d been worried that it had been lost, or too late.

[Aleks_V]

Got a nice note and wines will be here tomorrow!

[Michael_O_Brien]

Check cashed and wine is on the way. Received my UPS tracking today.