The Smoker Thread - recipes, techniques, ideas

Agree with temp comment; 200 is super low and you’re almost guaranteed a second stall at 190.

I don’t wrap pork shoulders, personally… but I don’t inject, either. I just did do fresh shoulders from Preservation Meat (guys who sell to Beast and Cleaver) and served three ways - Carolina sauced, Bachan sauced (~Japanese bbq sauce) and Sweet Baby Rays’d. You don’t want to know how many people kept going back to Sweet Baby Rays.

If you’re using a pellet smoker, I’d encourage you to make a batch or two of Chris Lilly’s Mac and Cheese, especially if you have kids there. 50 people demolished the tray below. Make the Mac, toss it in the pan, hit with the over broiler for some caramelization, THEN put the chopped bacon on and toss it on the smoker at 200. People can serve themselves… but keep the spoon outside of the cooker :wink:


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I’ve learned to hit my pork with a sauce of apple cider vinegar, a little brown sugar, cayenne, salt and pepper before I serve it. I’ve found that a lot of people won’t add that sauce on their own, but everyone prefers their pulled pork with at least a little added.

The sauce is based on the “Vaunted Vinegar Sauce” from the book Smoke and Spice. Highly recommend that book. My pork butt and KC rib rubs also started out of recipes from that book (now modified to my family’s preferences)

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Wrap = cook faster, less bark
No wrap = slower cook, better bark

I used to wrap 100% of the time. Now only if time is becoming an issue

When you are done pull from smoker and let rest on the counter at least 10 mins to stop cooking and have the internal temp drop a few degrees. Then wrap and cooler. If you go straight to cooler it will keep cooking

I usually inject. And I use big poppa smokers money rub and some mix of head country and blues hog tn red sauce cut with apple juice

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I usually wrap around 165-170 in foil. Some use butcher paper. I like foil to retain juice to go back into the meat when shredding.

I finish the cook at 203-205 IT.

Cooking at 200 will take a really long time as the meat goes through the stall. I would bump that up to 225-230 and watch for any heat spikes.

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I smoke quite a bit, here is my method and thoughts:

Using the exact same techniques, even cooking two butts together the cooking time varies, so if you don’t want a room full of people asking when it’s going to be done and your not through the stall yet, start early.

I leave a thin layer of fat on and score the top, salt it and put in on a rack in the fridge at least 24 hours before I plan on putting it on the smoker.

I make my own salt less rub and use a binder (oil, mustard or mayonnaise) and apply that about an hour before the cook. Once applied I leave it out on the counter.

For years I did a no-wrap, 225 degrees cook, spritzing with ACV and a little oil every 45 minutes or so and would cook to an internal temp of 197 degrees. Sometimes I would inject with ACV beforehand, always got a great bark but sometimes it was a little dry. I would rest it for an hour in a cooler wrapped in a towel

Now I cook it at a higher heat usually around 260 degrees, but will go as high as 275. I no longer spritz or inject, about an hour into the stall I wrap with butchers paper, it gives me a better bark than wrapping right at the beginning of the stall. I monitor the internal temperature and start probing it when it’s close to 200 degrees internal, I rely more on how it probes than the actual temperature. I preheat my cooler with really hot water for 10 minutes, pour the water out, give it a quick dry and drop the butt in, still wrapped in the BP. You can easily hold it for 3-4 hours if necessary I try to hold it for at least 2 hours. Then when I’m close to serving it I pull it, add in any juices from the cooler, a little more ACV and just a hint of BBQ sauce with more on the side.

I like the wrap, it cooks quicker, is juicer and yes softens the bark a bit, but resting does that too. I’ve tried unwrapping it towards the end to set the bark like you might do to a brisket but found it doesn’t make that much of a difference.

If you really want no pressure and to not worry about the timing cook it the day before, pull it and put it in your fridge and reheat it the next day. Easy to reheat in a crockpot, sous vide or even in a microwave. For years I brought pulled pork to my companies pot luck and reheated it and it was always a hit.

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You all are the best. Thanks a bunch. @Andrew_Kotowski , B&C is exactly who I called to order the meat.

I’ll post pics…I hope to do you all proud.

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Keep the first one simple.

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I’ve got a 10-ish pork butt coming from Beast & Cleaver and am curious: at 225, roughly how long would you imagine this would take to cook up to 195-200? The recipe just posted above says 15-20 hours. I know it’s a very broad question, but if I’ve got 2 hours +/- for resting as flex time, when would you put it on if we plan to shred and serve at about 6:30 p.m.?

ANdrew

I tried the Lilly Mac & Cheese recipe and found that the mayo was too overpowering. The areas that had less mayo or very little(mainly the edges) were better. Have you ever tried it without the mayo or less mayo?

I have not tried with less mayo, however I generally add a little more cheddar on the topping, as I cook in a large skillet with more surface area.

I have always cooked my pork butts in the 275-300 range good to very good results. Pretty forgiving cut I find.

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If you’re asking " do I really need to put this on at midnight the night before?"

Yep. We load up the pellet feeder with extra using an can with no bottom or top. Kind of stacked on top of the full feeder. And then up at 5am to load it up again.

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mayo and Mac & Cheese don’t seem to belong together

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you run out of pellets after 5 hours at 225?!
dayammm.

It would have gone longer but my first time …

It’s for the topping. I’m telling you… the stuff is like crack and vanishes every time I make it.

I agree on a solid recipe. your bacon bits addition takes it over the top

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I think you have your vent open too wide - shouldn’t burn through that many pellets in only 5 hours at 225

i likely won’t need a full butt any time soon, but for future reference could you split into two halved and reduce the time? I can see benefits of increased contact to rub and smoke but wonder if the overall cost of moisture loss etc would pan out ok

I’ve done both, you can indeed reduce the cook time somewhat. But two things: i much prefer a whole bone-in roast, and pulled pork freezes remarkably well, so I don’t mind having leftovers, and avoiding another future prep and cook.