Someday, thanks to WB, I’ll have more wine that’s 15+ years old (not counting champagne). Also thanks to WB, it sounds like I’ll be able to get a potential deal on a Durand. This is a great example of being the problem and the solution .
Just to pile on…not Tom, but the efficacy of a Durand. I shied away from the expense initially but if you do open 15+ year old bottles often its really worth the money. It won’t save every single cork but you’ll get 95% of them out without much fuss using a Durand. Essential wine geek gear.
Just, read the directions…
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Nice! I will hold off on the Durand – I think I can get by with my ah-so and waiter’s friend until then.
Just be sure you contact @TomHill for instructions
I don’t want to minimize the value of the Durand. It has opened a lot of bottles that really saved some very expensive wines. My regular wine group has long had one very special tasting a year where we bring more expensive wines. Several years ago, one person brought a bottle of 1959 Latour that he had bought at auction. He was having a lot of problems getting the cork out. Fortunately, I had brought my Durand, which got the cork out pretty easily (soon after that most of the attendees that night bought a Durand).
Over and over again, my Durand has paid for itself. Our group has a lot of seniors (including me) who bought a lot of great wine years ago when it was more reasonably priced. So, we have a lot of bottles that are pretty old - still hard to believe that the 1982 Bordeauxs that my generation bought on futures in 1983 are now over 40 years old. The Durand came in handly most recently with a 2002 Hudelot-Noellat Romanee St. Vivant (over 20 years old).
My personal “when to use the Durand” line is 20 years (based on the vintage date) and I agree with the other testimonials. Essential for anyone for whom mature wines are a regular part of life.
I use the 15 year rule. When I don’t follow the rule sometimes I get punished and have to reach into the bag of shame to use the Durand that I should have used from the jump. I’m thinking of making it a 14 year rule
That happened to me once as well, but the wine was over 20. I absent-mindedly overlooked the age until I had my waiter’s already screwed in at which point I thought “Ah, cork looks great, should be fine” only to end up with a two-piece cork. Won’t make that mistake again.
I have not (knock wood) had that issue with 15-19 yo wines, but perhaps I should stop pressing my luck.
I’ve had very few issues with 15-20 year wines I’ve cellared since release as compared with ones I’ve bought more recently.
If you only buy wines with Diam and screw caps you won’t have this issue.
I don’t think there is a ‘corks melt at this year’ point. I’ve 30+ year old corks that caused me to sweat removing them. I’ve had ten year old cork break before I knew they felt soft. Fifteen is a nice rule of thumb where you can expect to start having the most issues given decent quality cork most often used in better wines. It’s a ‘to be safe’ cut off more than it is an expectation of failure.
Totally. I’m sure well more than half of my 20+ yo wines would have done just fine with a waiter’s. They did before I got my Durand. But since I don’t know which is which in advance, and my goal is to never break a cork (rather than to never use the Durand except when absolutely needed), I use the Durand on all 20+ bottles, with a motion pending to shorten that to 15.
the 10-15 year mark is interesting, many corks hold up perfectly well (rivers-marie comes to mind), while other crumble easily (Neal comes first to mind). Quality of the cork seems to be rather crucial to this question. I typically reach for the Durand for these wines regardless.
What Mark said.
Seeing as 20 years ago will always be the 80’s, 15 years ago is anything in the 90’s?
That actually aligns pretty well with my Durand usage.
You seem not to have updated your internal chronometer. 20-30 years ol starts at 2003 and ends at 1993. 15-20 years ago starts at 2008 and ends at 2003… Assuming you go by vintage date and not bottling date, of course.
At least it’s confirmed again that a lot of us made the same mistake
I actually knew how to use it properly, hadn’t used it in a while, and then recently tried to use it by inserting the prongs through the storage slots. Took me a moment to realize what I was doing wrong.