Feels right. This has been on sale on Vivino at $50 for some time.
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Definitely a candidate. Thanks for the suggestion—and the link.
My only doubt would be the email pitch: “The wine has at least 95pts from a lauded US publication (one of the major publications - the verbiage is outstanding as well).” Jon is not known to be subtle or downplay accolades, and according to your link there are multiple scores to brag about (95 VM, 94 DC, 94 JD, 93 JS). Of course, he could have just mentioned “one” to obfuscate the mystery…
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likely he chose to only mention the highest one
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So odd to see the top score be Vinous and bottom score JS.
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Has anyone received their order to confirm the mystery offer?
Any savvy guesses on today’s mystery, single vineyard pinot? Various AI searches are all over the place.
Impossible to say. Scared that they dont carve out any troubled vintages so this could be a smoky 2020. I bought 3 just out of curiosity. But Im worried its a throwaway wine from the winery.
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Does anyone have insight into today’s mystery CdP? For what it’s worth, Claude seems to think it is Chateau Rayas Pignan.
Gemini thinks “this mystery bottle is almost certainly the Pierre-Henri Morel Châteauneuf-du-Pape ‘Lieu-dit Pignan’”
Seems impossible at that price.
Cellartracker shows a Domaine Julien Masquin Châteauneuf-du-Pape Cuvée Pignan with a community value of $84. That would at least be a possibility.
Anything Rayas in the US market exists in small quantities and is eye poppingly expensive. I can’t believe that Garagiste would have a sufficient allotment to make the kinds of offers he does, much less at that price. But maybe Claude knows something I don’t.
I’ve never heard of Pierre-Henri Morel . Other CdPs that have Pignan holdings are Barroche, Chapelle St. Theodoric and Bastide St. Dominique. Any of them might be a likely guess, though the Barroche Pure seems as unlikely as the Rayas Pignan for the same reasons. There may be more for all I know.
I searched my stash of Garagiste emails going back about 15 years for keyword “Pignan”. He only uses the word in a handful of offers.
I found a 2017 offer for 2015 Chapelle Saint Theodoric Chateauneuf du Pape “Grand Pin”, which included a JD review with “this flagship cuvée (100% Grenache) comes all from the northern part of the Pignan lieu-dit”.
In 2021 and 2022 he also offered a couple of vintages of La Bastide St. Dominique “Secrets de Pignan” Chateauneuf du Pape.
So those two producers should be eliminated by the offer’s parenthetical claim “this is the first time we’ve offered this wine in our history – we’ve never had access to it”. (I looked at CT and St. Theodoric has no wine with “Pignan” in the name and the only wine from La Bastide St. Dominique with it in the name was that “Secrets de Pignan”.)
If we rule out Rayas and Barroche that leaves us with Pierre-Henri Morel and Bastide St. Dominique remaining from the list we’ve built so far.
Since he has offered secrets dr pignan, bastide st. Dominique is also eliminated. Short of some other domaine with a pignan holding, and ruling out either barroche pure or rates pignan, that does indeed seem to leave the morel.
Duh! I did all that research and then made an unforced error on the conclusion. Thanks for catching that!
I’ve seen wines from Pierre-Henri Morel at Total Wine & More. Rather drab labels. Haven’t tasted one
Worth noting “this particular vintage trades for quite a bit more in the US.” This particular vintage. He’s not saying that other (very good, perhaps even better than this one) vintages don’t trade at or below the offer price ($58.76). Whatever vintage this is, it might have only one or two retails offering a handful of bottles at a unjustifiably high price. Some bottle shop a wealth NYC suburb, for example.
Quilceda on Garagiste? Is that a first or have they offered before?
They’ve offered the 21s before. Found an email from Feb 2024 with that offer
… For a higher price of $249.76
Why wouldn’t people buy the older vintages on WineBid for less? That stuff takes 10 to 15 years to come around. Tried the 2016 a few months ago and it was tight as nails.