The frustration connected with grower producers in the Champagne

An interesting week, the release of the new Eichelmann, no real surprises but a very interesting preface, which articulates a growing frustration which a number of my colleagues and myself feel towards especially the younger generation of grower producers.

Also this week we visited one of the top grower producers in our sortiment and he echoed indepedently what Eichelmann wrote. More interesting is his decision to give up making different crus and make just one champagne incorporating the three champagnes he makes at the moment.

To Eichelmann. A lot of young producers are very effective at creating hype via social media. For us it is difficult, if we do not go with the producer, we might have missed a great oppurtunity which we could later regret. The problem with these hyped grower producers, is firstly the price and secondly the quantity. Microvinification sound great, in reality it is expensive so the price reflects more the work involved rather than the quality in the bottle.

As quantity is neglible, allocations are ridiculously small, meaning to share evenly amongst customer, one is reduced to selling one bottle per customer. Is there any real value in buying just one bottle? What is the optimal point to drink ? These young producers seem totally disenfranchised from the wishes of the customers.

Then the never ending fragmentation, with each new release one discovers a new champagne parcellaire nowhere to be found on the map. The top, the bottom, the east and west side all deserve in the produce’rs mind individual expression. The individual expression of the champagnes however is not worth expressing and if the four were blended together a better champagne would have been made.

A producer with 30 hectares said, it is enough for us to have just one parcellaire. Jacquesson with 200 000 bottles a year have identified four sites they consider worthy of a individual expression. Yet we have these young producers with 1 or 2 hectares releasing 4-6 parcallaire champagnes in miniscule quantities.

Eichelmann says, Microvinification shows how necessary it is for producers to have a brut non-vintage champagne in quantity. This is something the maisons have been preaching for a long time, stating it is important for the region. I would have to agree.

Young producers need to be drunk young if they have to build up a clientele, this is resulting in too short aging on the lees, lower dosage and lower or no sulphur. The champagnes are enjoyable in the first few years after release but they just don’t age. The arguement about terroir becomes negligble, if in 4 or 5 years the champagne is shot.

In 2017 Leclapart’s L’Aphrodisaique was an amalgamation of all the best plots, the best champagne he has producer in my opinion. Emanuel Brochet like Leclapart is capable of making champange at Krug level. His decision in the future to make just one champagne rather than three, might help this younger generation understand the benefits of blending.

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I wish all champagne producers would go back to including more parcels in their NV, MV brut and extra brut cuvées. I’m thinking Pierre Peters in particular, but most all have marginalised their standard blends the past decade.
Yes, on top of that you have the new generation with their micro-vinifications…

As with everything else, things go through phases, trends and trials; the pendulum swings this way and that; in time this too shall pass.

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who is this and can we read his writings? Nur auf Deutsch?

Unfortunately the new edition is in german and will be translated into French. The last edition which is outdated in term of reviews of what is availabe but offers excellent producer profiles is available in english. He is highly respected by the producers and it was at their request that the last edition was published in english,

In terms of grower producers, he is the most comprehensive critic. Also I think he is quite balanced and not affiliated to any of the maisons like most of the champagne critics are in some way or another.

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Those are also priced at or above the Krug level, so I’m glad the wine compares to Krug in quality.

Are there any growers making <$100 wines who blend like you advocate and whom you recommend?

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Leclapart’s L’Amateur from the 2019 vintage is his entry level champagne and after the disappointment of 2018 a really good introduction to the Leclapart style.

Natalie Falmet’s Val Cornet is a big champagne which really ages very well.

De Sousa. The 3A which is a combination of Chardonnay from Avize and Pinot Noir from Ay and Ambonnay. I prefer this to Egly’s Brut Grand Cru.

Bedel, she has an unique style, the Ente Ciel et Terre is chardonnay dominated with Meunier and Pinot Noir.

Perseval Farge, a traditional producer who works with a lot of reserve wines.

Aubry but I feel since the cousin has joined them, they have lost their edge.

Hure Freres don’t really blend, yet the Memoires is one of the best Vin Perpetuelles, much cheaper and more interesting than Bereche’s Reflet d’Antan.

From my perspective the best value champagne at the moment is Maillart’s Platine. 67% Pinot noir, 26% Chardonnay and 7% Meunier, a blend from the vintages 2016,2015,2014,2013… 3g/l dosage.

An interesting and up and coming producer is Tristan Hyest, he sells a lof Pinot Noir to Krug. He is rather eccentric and copies Kug in the way the make champagne. His champagnes are not a subsitute for Krug but never the less very interesting.

Les 7 Vigne is a blend of f 50% Chardonnay and 50% Pinot noir (20% what he calls Solera) 4g Dosage. The best in the sortiment. The italian market is crazy for his champanges.

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Care to elaborate on what happened in 2018? I’ve got a bottle I picked up on a whim. The CT notes aren’t inspiring any confidence, but curious why this vintage was so problematic.

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It was a really hot vintage and an early harvest, no or very little acidity. This was the year of the coteaux’s. Leclapart was not happy with the 2018 vintage, he told us, with 19 they are back on form.

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I don’t think it’s unique to champagne, but a lot of young growers all over have figured that that bottling micro cuvées is a profitable and effective marketing strategy.

They are able to charge more and the limited supply helps with the hype. Plenty of consumers seem to buy into that rarity hype very easily. Oh, a new culty producer that I could only buy 1-2 bottle of (if one can find it at all)? Yes please. Let me buy it so I can post on instagram how cool and in the know I am.

Distributors also seem to be less discerning now when signing up new producers. Not by desire, but almost by necessity. As you alluded to Donald, if one doesn’t sign up a new producer, another distributor will. There’s real fear of missing out the next big hit producer. So distributors snap up anything they can find. Even if the quality is not there—yet or ever. The hope seems to be for many that the quality eventually catches up to the hype that’s created. I almost draw some parallels to how some VCs operate. Investing in lots hoping that a few hit big and pay off.

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Too much differentiation is going to cause fatigue for some of us who love this space of grower Champagne. Marguet may be a good example of differentiation…although he has been in this way for a while now. I’d love to try the various parcels but I neither have the means nor the want to to try and track it all down. So, I focus on the few sites I know, that I like, and I buy those regularly (meaning each release as I can find them). I don’t mind the differentiation, as long as there is some differentiation there to experience in the glass. Crayeres, Grand Ruelle, Bermonts, plus Shaman and now Yuman.

In the example of Marie Courtin, if I may use that one, there is differentiation, but it is made through vinification differences via her single site, not multiple sites. I’m good with that and I try and buy all the separate cuvees each year. Vilmart another…arguably across a few sites, although not bottled by defining site. Instead, using cepage blend ratios, and level of time sur lie and exposure to new wood.

I don’t disagree with the premise of Daniel’s point, but I am instead focusing on where the differentiation in my examples is one we can speak positively about, even with Marguet if one is willing to look for the positive in the way he does it.

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I think a big aspect of champagne making is experience. I agree with you with Marie courtin and Marguet, although Marguet goes a bit overboard sometimes.

It is however a big difference if you have sites in Ambonnay, Bouzy or in Aube, but just not every site is worth expressing, and then the splitting of sites into north/south/east/west is crazy.

That sounded interesting but talk about too many different bottlings

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This is the problem, this stupid obsession with expressing every supposed terroir/soil type.

Hyest is a talented champagne maker but he makes too many champagnes.
They get insulted when one only takes two or three champagnes from their selection, but they don’t seem to understand, when you only get six or twelve bottles the amount of effort and also space that is required to sell them and customers want 3 or 6 bottles not just one bottle. They taste a bottle like it, come back and do not understand whay they cannot buy more.

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You can thank Burgundy for this! It’s been their model forever. Champagne is just catching on. (Germany too for that matter)

When the number of individual bottlings creeps past 4 or 5 I get decision fatigue

Edit to add: I love all of these regions, but the old BDX model of good, better, best bottling is so much easier.

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Agree, but in Burgundy is not a matter of choice, is a matter of necessity. In my opinion, the rhetoric about letting the wine express its terroir in Burgundy came after the fact that the producers were forced to produce that way, it would have been very difficult for them to make a profit otherwise.
My problem with the previous wine trend AKA “Parkerization”, was that many producers went big and bold, whether it made sense or not. Now there are many producers all around the globe that are miro-vinifying whether it makes sense or not just because it’s the new trend.

I was only on the Williams Selyem list for a few years maybe 15ish years ago, but this was what that was like. You’re allocated 0-1 each of a dozen+ single vineyard pinots, with little or no basis to know you’d prefer one over another, or to really learn which ones you like more than the others, and no opportunity to go back for more of one you liked.

I guess the customer’s way forward is just to pick a few each year and enjoy them and not worry about it, but I just never liked the experience.

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Dare I say that I have the same sentiment with Bedrock :popcorn:

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One positive other example I thought of this morning is the grower Gerbais in the Aube. His model, if I can simplify it, is do a bottling of each cepage (that is built on solera), plus a bottling of a blend of cepages, to include Rose. About half dozen wines, an opportunity to contrast…manageable. It’s intrigued me enough that I have some arriving today–the Chard and Pinot, plus the blended cuvee. I want to try them all again. Manageable.

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I am now equally intrigued, as I think this is a great approach. I’m looking forward to your tasting notes, which are always so thoughtful and instructive.

Zero dosage?