12 yr old Kitchenaid is about at the end of its life. I am looking for recco’s on a replacement that would safely and efficiently take my (mostly Riedel Vinum) stemware. Premium on quiet operation. Ideas?
Miele.
+1 (and then some) on Miele. Their top models have water softeners, glass cycles and special stemware racks on both top and bottom. (We have tall glasses and prefer the bottom stand-up rack.) We wash stemware in ours almost daily. Hardly use the special glassware cycle and never have an issue. Clear, clean, no breakage. And super, duper quiet. Not cheap, but worth every penny. We LOVE ours.
I know this isn’t the question you asked, but do you think it would be worth it? In other words, do you often have lots of glasses? If not, you might consider simply getting a rubber rack and hand washing. I used to have 144 glasses after a monthly tasting group (12 x 12) and I’d do them all by hand. If I had to do that weekly or every few days, I’d be more inclined to go mechanical.
Miele is a good choice. When my wife and I went to the store to buy our last dishwasher she brought a wine glass with to make sure it would fit.
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Not “wifey?”
Clearly not, Merrill… It would have to be “me wifey”.
And yes, Miele.
Hi Robert!
I have a Miele. But I need a wife, or someone to do all that stuff I do not want to do…or don’t do well.
AEG - water softener, special large glass racks. Great result.
My wifey has someone like that. He’s called her hubby.
I took a whole box of wine glasses to the store; champagne, bordeaux, etc. I ended up with Miele, but I also learned that there’s quite a bit of difference between their models. Only one would allow me to wash tall glasses on the top and bottom, simultaneously.
I don’t regret the choice. It’s very quiet and does a great job.
This is a 3 year old 800-series, you would want to double check that you can do this with the newer ones as the racking has been updated. Love my Bosch.
I have a Bosch Ascenta, bought two years ago. For general dishwashing, I love it. Quiet and does a good job cleaning. I’ve never had an issue washing stemware in it and do so regularly, but the racking indeed is different. The upper shelf is a bit too close to the top of the unit for most stems to fit; they do fit in the bottom though it’s very much a hodgepodge rather than the neat lineup in the picture.
Until now, I had always considered you supremely sane, Greg.
Totally agree. I so dislike getting up in the morning and being greeted by a sea of dirty glasses that have to be hand washed.
I have had both Bosch and Miele (top-of-the-line in both cases) and, in my mind, Bosch can’t even begin to compare to Miele’s performance, quiet and interior layout. In fact, we put two rather expensive Bosch machines in our new home in 2007 and pulled them out last year to replace with (even more expensive) Mieles … And am oh-so-glad we did. The Mieles we have now have top racks you can tilt stemware in, like the picture of the Bosch shown, as well as adjustable racks on the top, silverware shelf, that allow them to be pushed aside to stand tall items straight in the top rack. AND stemware holders on the bottom rack, which are the ones I like best because they hold the stems securely, but also keep them straight up and down, so you don’t get any dirty water, requiring rewashing, puddled in the bowl, like you sometimes do with the tilt top rack.
Lots of small details that seem unimportant but are actually awesome, like an interior light (we knew that would be handy?) and an auto-latch that partially opens the dishwashers at the end of the cycle for an “extended drying” which helps get even plastic items bone dry AND allows dishes to cool a bit. (Something you’ll appreciate if you’ve ever tried to pick up a just-washed plate and burned yourself because it’s so hot.) Oh and, if you have even slightly hard water, the built-in softeners on the higher-end models are worth every extra penny.
Hands down, the best dishwashers we’ve ever had, with great service as well. Any little issue we have had–and they’ve all been minor, like a burned out light and a bent lower rack upon install–have been handled almost instantly. They’ve also got the longest warranty in the business, which made the top-of-the-line Mieles the same price as the top-of-the-line Bosches + extended warranty to match.
Just the two cents of an avid cook who hates hand washing dishes. (Everything but my good knives goes in my dishwasher.)