Silly wine.woot.com deal. Havens Hudson Syrah 2005 and 2006.

WINE TALK
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Get it before this wine reaches lesser palates. I’ve had the 2004 and it was AMAZING(92-94 tanzer). I agree. The 2005 was a Tanzer 90-93. No idea on the 2006.

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We are expecting our 2005 Hudson Syrah delivery anyday as well. At the liquidation, it was sooo cheap.

What was woot price?

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2005-2006 Havens Syrah Hudson Vineyard Carneros - 3 Pack (two '05’s, one '06)
$37.99

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wine.woot doesn’t ship to NJ.

Probably just as well.

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Dan, what will your price be?

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Thanks. Just pulled the trigger on a 3 pack. Never had their Syrah, but was a fan of their Merlot.

edit: Ouch just checked CT and the few reviews listed aren’t very glowing - especially for the 06. Oh well, I’m sure I’ve had worse $14 bottles.

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CT notes are brutal…

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I haven’t had 05 or 06, but I’ve liked the Hudson Syrah in the past. Seems like Michael H was still doing the winemaking then, so I’ll probably bite on a couple bottles if Daniel gets in at good price. The only 06 review I saw on CT (poor)was from someone I don’t recognize, so pretty meaningless to me. The lone 05 review is mediocre, but seems to be using “rhone style” as a negative, so not something that would keep me from buying.

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Our price will be pretty good.

Got half btls coming as well.

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I had the '06 Havens “Hudson” Syrah last week after finding it at the Wine House in West LA for $18. I liked it pretty well. Nice floral and meat aromas and flavors, not too much oak, good stuff.

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Now look who is being ‘vague’…
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Mike

I hate offering deals like this until we have the wine in hand.

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I tried the 06 Syrah on sale a few weeks back–OK, but not worth re-loading.

Bruce

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I know, just havin’ some fun with ya.

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Like you know fun.

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“A simple wine (w/ not much complexity) w/ great qpr” - 82
Community average value: 750ml @ $15.94

$16 for an 82 point wine doesn’t sound like great QPR to me.

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Full disclosure: I purchased the 2005 Hudson Syrah for my store, without tasting.

I have a hard time believing that these wines are not good.

The 2006 Bourriquot and Black & Blue were great bargains.

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Just in general, I place between zero and nil weight on scores like that out of context. If you look at the guy posting the note, he drinks mostly expensive wines. To him, an under $20 wine that is decent (80-85 points in CT signifies a
‘good’ wine) apparently is a good QPR. In one note he dings Havens for “Lacked distinctive CA syrah taste - jamminess, spice and dark fruit.” That is a plus for me since jam is a sign the varietal character has been obliterated by ripeness.

Then there’s the issue of how people use points. Sometimes you’ll see something like “Was hot and simple. 90.” Or you’ll see “Complex and thought provoking. 78.” Check out BarrellMonkey to see a very radical approach to scoring–if he gives an 80, the wine is probably excellent.

This guy has only 44 notes. I generally trust scores in context from guys with hundreds of notes.

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Good points, Greg - it’s difficult to have that much knowledge on how people score on CT, but it certainly is valuable if you do…

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I think you need someone like Jeff Leve to review the guys last 50 TNs, before we can assume credible…(inside joke)