Serious Washington State Syrah: Why Isn't This Board Talking About It?

In the early 1990’s I walked into Pike and Western Wines across from the Pike Place Market in Seattle. Almost every bottle on the shelves was from California or France with the occasional bottle from Italy. I remember four or five WA state wines including Chateau St. Michelle and Columbia Crest along with “odd” bottles of Leonetti, Quilceda Creek and Woodward Canyon. WA state wine then was facetiously perceived as cheap and a couple of steps up from Blue Nun and Cold Duck by some if one was desperate for swill at a cheap price.

In the mid '90’s the Wine Spectator had a cover feature on '94 Leonetti Merlot calling it “the best merlot in America.” At the time I was on Leonetti’s mailing list having bought one of the “odd” bottles a couple of years earlier and fell in love with it. I could buy two cases a year. As a salesman (I had a title but essentially I sold expensive equipment and was kind of a lobbyist, if you will) I would give bottles as gifts to clients and friends, printing the article and including it in the package.

I cannot tell you how many people who, today, are still on Leonetti’s mailing list because like myself they loved the wine. Of course Leonetti is no longer $25 a bottle either…

Washington state wine.

Two years ago, before I retired, I bought K Vintners Royal City syrah and would give this as gifts, printing out the Parker review which gave it 98 or 99 points depending on the year. I even drank several bottles myself. (After retiring I realized what a fool I was and am now cellaring every bottle I have to properly drink it a number of years from now-if I live that long. And, I should add, we’re talking a handful of bottles)

Along the way I started begging and would talk my way into the occasional bottle of Reynvaan (especially Stonessence) and Cayuse (Bionic Frog, a flippant name, but is about as serious of a bottle as you will find in any Western state.

Or the rest of the world for that matter.

This brings me full circle: I am sipping on '09 Sheridan Singularity syrah as I type this (waited two hours after opening and decanting and still, should have waited five more years) and just finished reading the WS’s annual top 100 issue which includes a lengthy feature on WA state syrah.

I haven’t posted on here for long, just a few months and, then wrote about VA wine. Half of the responses were facetious, at least until the Washington Post article in their Sunday magazine a week ago that called several VA wines “world class.” But I don’t have a lot of credibility. I should mention I have drank a lot of wine however. And, at almost 67, that’s a lot of bottles. I should also mention that I travelled heavily for thirty years on both sides of the Atlantic. And have posted on other message boards (Chowhound) since 1999.

A decade ago I brought a bottle of Leonetti Reserve to Santi Santimaria (who sadly has passed) who owned the Michelin three star, El Raco de Can Fabes outside of Barcelona. Near the end of the dinner he came into the dining room holding a fishbowl sized glass, swirling the glass. He didn’t speak English but through his waiter who translated he thanked me for the bottle. Then he said, “I didn’t know wine was made in your capitol. Where are the vineyards? I’ve been to Washington and don’t remember seeing one.”

Santimaria was thinking of Washington, D. C.

Then he asked me where he could buy more of this wine? He really liked it. I didn’t have the heart to tell him I had a three bottle a year limit.

That same year I took a bottle of Leonetti merlot to Christian Constant who had/has the Michelin two starred Violon d’Ingres in Paris. He, too, came out of the kitchen-like Santimaria he hadn’t waited to open the bottle. At the end of the evening, why not now?

His wife, Catherine, translated: “he loves the wine. Where can he buy more?” I had a one case allocation of their merlot.

Why isn’t anybody writing about the WS article about WA state syrah? I went back three weeks on here and couldn’t find a single mention. Half of what I saw is French this or California that. But Washington? Walla Walla? (which now has 130+ wineries and twenty years ago had five). I didn’t see anything about the Okanagan either and very little about Oregon. Certainly not Virginia so I started two threads…)

I am making the very serious argument that among the finest syrah in the world are (and they are very different): several from K Vinters (including Royal City-the '10 is extraordinary), Cayuse, Reynvaan, Sheridan and several others. There are real bargains, too especially given the ferocious competition of Eastern WA wine, including Owen Roe Ex Umbris, PB (from the excellent Rasa Vineyards) and many, many others. I should note here when I say “bargain” I am not talking Columbia Crest Grand Estates. Rather, the $25-30 range and if you’re willing to buy a case a lot of this will come down 15-20% depending on the winery and who you buy it from.

I live outside of Washington-Washington, D. C. A lot of this rarely comes East. Much I’ve had to have shipped from the wineries or one of several excellent stores (I don’t want to namedrop) who I have learned to trust.

Why aren’t people talking about Washington state syrah? Does wine have to be French or from California to be truly excellent?

And, for those who decide to give several of the wines I’ve mentioned a taste, it may not be that easy. A lot of other people know about them. They’re just not writing about them on this board.
They should.

Uhh people talk WA St Syrah, and some of their other wines, on this forum.

I love what Bob Betz does but otherwise I have no use for Washington State Syrah, especially Cayuse. I really can’t see what people like about it.

Joe,

I’m not sure whether the sheep are led by the wine writers or they don’t know about WA Syrah. We carry a fair amount of WA and OR wines and have always been heavy on the Syrahs. We love them. The 2002 and 2003 L’ Ecole Syrahs are almost ready to drink. We sell about half our WA Syrahs through our website and 90% of the buyers are in WA or OR.

Really big on Washington State wines! Glad to see you posting!
Steve, agree with you about Betz. As for the rest, taste these wines at 15 years of age and you will get it!

To answer your question directly, because in the grand scheme of the wine world, they are not that important.

Hey Joe, I’m with you. I think if you search here you will find a substantial number of threads on Cayuse. Reynvaan, Betz, No Girls, Rasa and Force Majeure to a lesser extent.

Leonetti has never been a favorite on this board but I think what Chris Figgins is doing at Leonetti, Doubleback and FIGGINS is noteworthy.

Quilceda Creek is a topic onto its self. I’m a fan.

Tom

Define “important” as you’re using it.

Significant.

I’ve seen individual threads but what surprised me was the absence of any mention at all of the WS article. Especially considering it is in their Top 100 issue. When I started scrolling down pages it reminded me of the perception of WA wine twenty years ago. I live in the Virginia suburbs of D. C. and Va wine is going through a similar struggle with national recognition that WA did then.

Anyway, I was just surprised that the article didn’t elicit a reaction and I thought it would be a good topic for late Saturday night.

In the East there’s not a lot of familiarity with WA syrah. I’ve been on Cayuse’s waiting list for four years but have picked up the odd bottle here and there. My point is that it’s hard to find some of this nationally. There is also very little written about it here. The benchmarks seem to be CA and FR with Italy given some recognition. Rasa? Reynvaan? A single vineyard from Owen Roe? Bergevin Lane? Just unknown here.

I have a lot of WA wine having spent considerable time in the Pacific Northwest for business (including Vancouver, BC). Today, a WA wine shop even a Larry’s Market is a polar opposite of what was around twenty + years ago. It’s almost surprising to get on a plane and come back here and see very little mention of it.

I would suggest that the word “significant” is a very appropriate description in much of the West but in the Midwest and the East there is little opportunity to sample exactly how significant the best WA syrah can be.

WA State wineries contribute over $2 Billion a year to the US economy and their wines aren’t significant. The state has numerous producers who have attained cult status with wineries like QC and Cayuse which are comparable to iconic wineries from CA like Marcassin and SQN. To say that a state that producers such wines and revenues is not significant is crazy.

I’m not a big fan of WA wines either but do respect what the people involved in the production of these wines have accomplished which is nothing short of spectacular.

Washington is finally beginning to figure out Syrah, and there are some good wines to be had, although most are not cheap. There are several different styles. I vastly prefer those made in a restrained low alcohol style (Gramercy, Betz). The problem for me is that the best Washington wines aren’t much different in price from top quality Syrah from elsewhere–eg Jamet or Ogier, various top Cornas, and top St Joseph. I live in Washington state, but It’s still hard for me to pull the trigger on these wines when I know I’d much prefer a Northern rhone for roughly the same price. What the state really needs is a 40-50$ wine that is restrained and lower alcohol, and still has the profile of violets, black olives, smoke, and perhaps a little bacon fat, and not just primary syrah fruit.

Huge, huge fan of the work that Powers is doing in the Sheridan vineyard and of course the Champoux vineyard.

Those are some seriously elegant New World wines.

I like your passion…but to compare QC and Cayuse to Marcassin and SQN…well that’s crazy. Got on the Cayuse list in a year…it’s been 7 years and counting to get SQN and I live 2 miles away!!

Joe I like your enthusiasm but its the sweeping statements that end up hurting your argument and discussion. You can say “wow Washington syrah really hits my pleasure parts it my favorite in the world” and noone will argue with you. When you make a statement that “among the finest syrah in the world are blah blah bloop” you indirectly pass judgement on people who dislike Washington syrah. I love Cayuse. For me, it is world class. I have poured down the sink three bottles of Reynevaan and stopped buying it. I like royal city and old bones and the heart but I dont think they fit in the same sentence as say guigal lalas or chave or sine qua non or saxum or even cayuse. But these are all my opinions. If you are a wine lover and you like them some much count yourself fortunate that youre not paying the 300 bucks I paid for chave.

Joe - I don’t agree with your premise that in the 1990s Washington wine was equated with Blue Nun. I was drinking Washington wine in the 1990s - the heyday of Blue Nun was the 1970s. There wasn’t much in the way of WA wine it’s true, but a few producers were already pretty good.

In the 1970s, Andre Tchelistcheff was consulting for Chateau St Michelle and in the early 1980s he sent some barrels from BV to his nephew, Alex Golitzin, whose first vintage in 1983 won first prize from the Enological Society of the Northwest. On the committee awarding the prize was Angelo Gaja, which caused the wine to be taken very seriously.

In the 1960s there were only something like eight or nine wineries in the state and they weren’t all using vitis vinifera wine grapes. In addition, there was a protective system that discriminated against wines from out of state, which had to go through the State distribution system whereas local wineries could sell directly to wholesalers. In 1969 the legislature passed the “California Wine Bill” that removed the barriers to “foreign” wine, whether from other states or other countries. They did so partly because Walter Clore, among others, had testified that Washington really could make good wine if the right grapes were planted. That bill forced the local wineries to improve or close. In addition, it caused a lot of people to start thinking seriously about Washington as a place to make wine and kind of kicked off the WA wine movement.

Woodward Canyon and Hogue were making wine in the 1980s and Spectator put a few Washington wines in their top 100 for the first time in the late 1980s - I don’t remember the year. About 2 years ago I opened a 1987 Columbia Crest Merlot that put to shame two Bordeaux.

It is true that Washington isn’t “significant” or considered a major player in the global wine market, partly because it’s relatively young as a wine-producer, and I’m talking post-Prohibition. What happened prior doesn’t matter as it was all erased.

To put Washington into perspective - today there are some 500 wineries, which is an incredible increase since the 1970s, and the harvest has gone from something like 35,000 tons to somewhere just under 200,000 tons in the most recent years.

But that’s from the whole state.

By way of comparison, Napa alone harvests around 180,000 tons or so, roughly the same as the entire state of Washington. And Marlborough in New Zealand also harvests roughly the equivalent of the entire state of Washington. So Gary is correct regarding the relative importance of the state in the wine world.

However, it is interesting and unlike California, which dwarfs it in terms of output and dollar value of wine produced, Washington is one of the few regions in the world that has not based its wine economy on cheap bulk wine.

At any rate, I’m a big fan of Washington wines.

I love Walla Walla, and Corliss syrah is one of my favorites. I do find that the price points and ordering are a bit infuriating though. With Corliss you have to order a six pack. Rasa’s Principia is $85 a bottle – though no bottle order requirements. Reynvaan is also spendy and you have to buy in 3-bottle increments and you have to wait a year to get it. I also really like Efeste’s Jolie Bouche syrah.

k.

People on this board generally don’t pay much attention to the WS other than to poke fun, (mostly.) And Harvey Steiman… ugh… neener

Personally I find most WA wines to be too sweet and/or too green and/or too similar. I love to go to Woodinville to taste but as someone said earlier, there are generally better examples for the money elsewhere, (Ogier, Jamet etc. I believe were some examples.) If I can find world class Hermitage for the same price or cheaper than something from WA - it’s a no brainer for me.

As I stated before, I’m not a fan of Wa. State wines however I think your argument is crazy. Just because the wait list to get on the SQN mailer is longer doesn’t mean the wine is any better. And what’s the difference whether you live 2 miles or 2,000 miles away? It’s a mailing list.

As far as I’m concern you can take all four of those wines and put them in the same boat, stylistically they don’t compare to great Rhones or BDX.