The 2009’s and 2010’s have been some of my favorite wines I’ve tried so far.
This was solid. Darker fruit and wild strawberry with some underlying complexity. Should age well for 6-8 years or so.
That’s nice, you’d probably like the newer ones more as the winemaking is better. A lot of the wines from the 2000s are made with more oak and in a more extracted manner than modern wines. Nicolas Rossingol even talked about this at the dinner, although I like his older wines a lot too.
I did a little horizontal of 2023 Berthaut-Gerbet over the last few weeks.
Fixin - surprisingly tough for the vintage. Firm tannins over the red fruit. Good acidity but needs a little time to soften for my tastes
Cote de Nuits Villages - the most well-rounded and ready to drink. Fresh wild red berries, good mineral acidity, moderate tannic structure. My sub-$50 Burgundy of the year so far. From a single plot in the village of Brochon between Fixin and Gevrey
Haute Cotes de Nuits - good fruit, but lacked the acidity and structure of the CdNV. A little insipid. Made for a flabby wine. I think the CdNV is well-worth the minimal premium.
I had 2023 Fixin En Combe Roy which was fabulous after being open for 2 days. For science I opened a 2023 1er Cru Les Arvelets, needs a lot of time for the oak to integrate.
Dugat-Py Gevrey Chambertin ‘Coeur du Roy’ TVV
Does anyone have any experience with this quite expensive village wine?
The little I’m able to find says 100+ year old vines needs 15+ years in the cellar.
Might be fun to buy this one across several vintage and see how it is?
Naturally, @Peter_Chiu regards this producer as the very tippy top.
Dugat-Py is quite expensive and takes a long time to mature. OK wines IMO.
Hi Paul,
so dense and concentrated. Really good wine but needs 20+ years.
Excellent producer with a suite of vineyards with very old vines.
kind regards
Jeremy
the older vintages are very tough and needs many years to mature, I hold some 2013-2014 GC that I dare not touch.
I have had a few new vintages (e.g. 2023) of village wines (vosne, pommard) in tastings and they have been very very good (pure and elegant) and open for business, winemaking has changed with less oak and extraction. But as you say pricing is also high.
I agree with what everyone posted here - specially what Asger L. said.
Sadly it is hard to source his wines as most of them are released with a Lottery systems. I do not believe the SAQ got their 2022.
For 2023 Dugat-Py 1er Corbeaux tvv 2023 (1554-3961 $718.25 ) was here and there were only 12 bottle and they were all gone.
The Dugata-Py Mozoyeres tvv 2023 (1559-3953 $1498 ) was also released recently with 6 bottles only. SAQ still have 3 available. It is out of my comfortable zone.
If I wish I live in USA …
Be careful what you ask for, 51st state and all
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Hmm…thanks for the advice.
I am a devoted burgundy lovers. There are 2 things :
(I) you need to have the money to buy burgundy wines as the Burgundian producers know what they are doing and they ask you to pay for them; and then
(2) it is more sad that even you could afford them - without feeling painful - the availability is not there. ![]()
For those who are interested :
Here are the prices offered d by a private importer - in Ontario province. Canada - for the prices of Dugat-Py entry-level reds of 2023 :
Dugat-Py - Pom-Levrieres TVV 2023 CA$340 + 13% HST for each bottle = CA$384 each bottle and per-6 bottles case.
Dugat-Py - Monthelie TVV 2023 at CA$215 + 13% HST each bottle = CA $242 each bottle per-6 bottles case.
Wow, never heard of a village wine that needs 20 years, that’s really someting. I bought a few bottles of 2017 — do you think the early drinking characteristic of that vintage might shave any of that time off?
Well if you bought a few, why not just try one?
Because it’s easier to post about it here and speculate.
Hi PaulN…your message in reply does not make any sense. I guess you misunderstood the post by Jeremy. He meant to say most of Dugat-Py’s wines need 20 years to show its best.
Since the son ( Domaine Dugat-Py ) took over, he softened the structure and lower the new oak level for his entry-level. This means they are crafted for early enjoyment.
The idea way of enjoyment of a wine…should always be : to own 14 bottles. This means 2 bottles plus a whole case of 12. Open 1 to 2 bottles at age 4 to 5. Then take a guess to age the case of 12 and open at later date of the wine’s life.
Normally if you settle on Dugat-Py style, then buy wines from his portfolio. His entry level were crafted for early drinking, then his 1er cry for mid-term enjoyment and his cru level needs 20 years or so - to show their best.
If you open his entry level and his G-cru…at age 4 to 5. You are wasting your money…may I say.
I had the 2022 and 2023 Mazoyeres Chambertin GC this year and both were fabulous. The 2022 was my favorite red of the verticals at La Paulee.
I don’t think we’ll ever settle the debate over “infanticide” in wine. I do think there are some wines and producers that basically show nothing in their youth and you’re throwing money down the drain pulling the cork young…the new Dugat-Py style does not seem to be in that group.
Thanks for the message - much appreciated.
Honestly speaking, since I do not buy any green banana due to my old age, I never buy and try the only G-cru ( Charm-Chambertin ) by Dugat-Py which has been released by SAQ annually.
So my message *wasting the money was based on my assumption.
Since you comments and opinion was based on a fact, I will take it into consideration of maybe buying his G-cru for the first time, if and when there is a discount promotion by SAQ and the wine are still available. I need to stretch my wine dollars. THAT being said,it is very still expensive… ![]()
May I have more details of the verticals ( of 2022 ) at La Paulee - for example, which were the wines presented there…?
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