Lots of pleasure in this bottle. Aromas of red and dark berries, new leather, and mineral and spicy accents on the nose. Ripe, lush, and yet balanced on the palate with a sweetness to the fruit I’m finding typical of the vintage so far, yet with more concentration than I’ve found in other village wines from 2023. My first experience with Dujac and it met or exceeded my (fairly high) expectations.
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Nice . I have a few of these but haven’t ventured to open yet. Most of the Village ‘23s I have had have been a bit tight. Glad to hear this showed well.
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Anyone have any experience with Hudelot Noellat Vougeot 1’er ‘Petit Vougeot’ ? I’ve read that it’s a really nice sort of undercover wine, can be bought for very reasonable prices in even the best vintages…
It’s fine, I’ve had it a few times, nothing special, I prefer the village wines.
So then would you put it somewhere with the HN 1’er NSG wines?
Idk, I’ve never had the nsg wines.
I don’t remember ever being really moved by a 1er Cru Les Petits Vougeot. Good enough from some producers but only if the price is right. I’d like to try Fourrier’s though.
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Been meaning to open one soon. Also heard good things
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I would say that our reds last night sort of confirmed some of my notions, and the consensus (lol) in this thread.
2017 Chevillon - Might have been fave of the flight. Mostly open and of its type and place.
2016 Mouches was earthy and more structure. Very good
2015 Fourrier - Sexy bright fruit as Fourrier can be, but perhaps least ready
2022 Mugnier is lights out. Hauntingly good. Silky, fresh, intense without weight. Super fresh right now.
2020 Drouhin - Silky, but big fruit. Maybe closed in a bit, or despite it’s brilliance, it’s just not the Mugnier.
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STOP OPENING 2020S NOW OR DIE OF DEATH
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I propose, from now on, only empirically proven, adamantly stated dogma about vintage characteristics, such as this perfect comment, are allowed in this thread.
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It’s your wine, open whatever you want. We’ve documented as nauseum that the wines aren’t drinking well, but if you want to see for yourself have at it.
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Some guidance requested:
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What are some producers known for presence of brett?
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What are some producers known for cleanliness and which almost never have any brett influence?
In the best Beserker spirit of not actually quite answering your question 
We had a bunch of Rousseau a few weeks ago, including a vertical of Charmes. The 2014 Charmes and 2012 Mazis were very clearly marked by Brett. It was quite stark (though both were drinkable). In the past, I’ve had a high incidence of Brett with Fourrier and Roumier, though no idea what the most recent vintages are like.
Tougher to answer than if we were talking Loire or Northern Rhône… I scanned my TNs.
Brett found in: Pierre Naigeon, Sylvain Pataille, Machard de Gramont, Chicotot.
Never any brett: others.
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Brettiest Burgs I have seen were Pavelot and Ecard from mid 90s. Seen a bit in isolated Claveliers and Burguet.
Mugnier, Leroux, PYCM, Faiveley are clean in my experience.
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this deserves its own post (although I am not sensitive to it 
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Definitely encountered it frequently with Pavelot, but in quantities that didn’t negatively impact the wines.
Des Croix and Audoin come to mind as being clean. I’ve never had much prior to 2014 of either of them.
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Further up the thread there were some comments about brett in some older bottles of Chevillon. The 2002 LSG I had a couple months ago showed it as did some wines that some other posters tasted.
Pataille recently was noticeably bretty as well
Important to note that my experience with these wines is not extensive, but does seem to correspond with others’ impressions
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