Nice. Are these available at retail and…Got a link?
I’m not sure where I got the original one we got, but this seems to be similar, each shelf is rated for 300 lb.
I don’t know if this is as point-and-click as you want, but I designed mine in Sketchup…
Vigilant offers this. See here: Custom & Premium Solutions | Vigilant - #1 in Wine Storage & Humidors and scroll down to “DIY 3D design tool”.
it worked great for our cellar.
Back in the day I created a mockup with carefully measured and scaled graph paper and graph paper cutouts of the various racking components…
Today I would likely just try some free online interior design software- something like this.
Storage cellar for my wines for aging. It was an experimental railway tunnel dug into a rock formation in central Switzerland in the 19th century but never used and since the 1960s used by the owner of the land as a wine cellar. A friend moved into apartments owned by the family a few years ago and has rented the space on a long term basis and we now use as storage. I’ve around 500 bottles stored there, at around 50cents a bottle per year, with full insurance so works out very well.
Old railway tunnel as wine cellar wins the thread!
I thought the thread was already won by the old mine shaft, with bear and cougar tracks. But I admit, this is a cool entry.
Would love to know more about the contraptions holding the wood cases and with locking cages.
I’d assume all the storage is custom made and has been there a few decades - the caged shelves for individual storage are concrete with each shelf have bottle indentations so they are specifically for wine storage. My friend is now managing the cellar as he also trades fairly large volumes of wine (he does a lot of work with a number of the good Swiss vineyards and receives good allocations) and mentioned he is getting more storage shelves for cases, I can try and find out some more info.
I know there are a few more Swiss based posters lurking on here - there is storage space available if anybody is interested, just message me.
Here is a SFBay area listing with a decent wine cellar (not very common).
It’s $29.5M, however (former Gordon and Betty Moore residence and some substantial grounds).
https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/100-Canada-Rd-Woodside-CA-94062/15589512_zpid/?
Notice they’re trying to flip the property? The assessed value in 2023 was $6.6M.
I don’t know if I’d call holding onto a home for decades and then selling it a “flip”.
(thread drift) Hard to call a flip without previous price/sale history. Are there some regulations that held the tax assessment growth to a much lower rate than market value?
I saw an interesting one in my general area go for sale for 10+M, where previous sale just a few years ago was ~500K, and sale before that something like 6M- I can smell family estate tax loopholes when I see them.
(edit to say I missed Patrick’s post before posting)
Prop 13. If this was sold anytime recently before being listed, it’s not showing up in the tax assessment history.
How do you think the seller voted in the Ridge MB allocation poll?
It’s 9300 sq ft, comes with 24 acres, in Woodside, purchased by them for $6M in 1993, and they reportedly spent $15M renovating over the years. Not a flip.
-Al
I couldn’t even afford the property tax if they gave me the home!
Then why the changes over the years in the tax liability?. My home is Prop 13 and my property tax hasn’t budged but maybe $200 in the past 35 years.
Sorry, I was looking at this on my phone and I confused some data.
When you do improvements, the county increases the tax basis of the property by the value of the improvement. It’s a supplemental assessment, but then subject to the 1% annual increase along with the original purchase amount. I lived about a mile from this house and went through the whole remodel reassessment mess. My house was about 1/50 the size of this though. Their wine cellar is bigger than my old house.




