Poll: What is your favorite Red Burgundy Vintage 2000->2009

[Craig_G]

My sentimental favorite is 2008, because it was the current vintage in the market when you jerks convinced me to take Burgundy seriously.

[A_So]

No love for '06? With '08, probably the best quality to price ratio these days, no?

[dbailey]

Phew, looks like I got the right answer…2005! I win!

[Frank_H_Herfjord]

Hmm hard to determine the criteria but I would have to say that 2005 is my favourite. But I think 2003 is the most underrated and 2001 the most overrated. There are many good wines in 2003 and many bad ones in 2001. Both are uneven.

[Peter_Chiu]

@Berry Crawford

@Nick Gangas

If the question means which is the best vintage then the answer is clearly 05. If the question what is drinking best nowci would say 2000

Its not “best” it is “favorite”. Anyone can choose their favorites based on any criteria they wish.

Yes…very well said - Berry. Your best may not be my best and your favorite may not be my favorte. If the criteria is based on curiosity, I would vote for : 2004 !!

[Stuart_BeauneHead_Niemtzow]

The question posed here is “favorite”, as Berry wrote.

Even that’s a struggle to answer…as it results in “favorite” for what?

I think 2005 is the best overall vintage I’ve ever experienced. But, I also really love the crystalline quality of the fruit in 2002. Never seen it before or since.

I guess it still boils down to the criteria, even for “favorite” which requires no pretense of “objectivity”. (And, also, to experience; I have none with vintages after 2006 and am unlikely to seek it out.) I think I’m most looking forward to drinking 2002 of the vintages since 1990-- when the 2002s are “ready” as the 1990 vintage is now.

I voted for 2005 , though. I hope I get to see it at its prime…and mine.

[Peter_Chiu]

@Stuart BeauneHead Niemtzow

The question posed here is “favorite”, as Berry wrote.

Even that’s a struggle to answer…as it results in “favorite” for what?

I think 2005 is the best overall vintage I’ve ever experienced. But, I also really love the crystalline quality of the fruit in 2002. Never seen it before or since.

I guess it still boils down to the criteria, even for “favorite” which requires no pretense of “objectivity”. (And, also, to experience; I have none with vintages after 2006 and am unlikely to seek it out.) I think I’m most looking forward to drinking 2002 of the vintages since 1990-- when the 2002s are “ready” as the 1990 vintage is now.

I voted for 2005 , though. I hope I get to see it at its prime…and mine.

Stuart…could you try to answer the follwoing question : what is your purpose of drinking red Burugndy wine ?

Perhaps this could help you to answer your own question ( favorie for what?) !!!

[JonoBeagle]

2008 for its classic mineral character but my runner-up is probably a toss up between 2001 and 2006. The former for its brooding depth, but not necessarily complex… And the later for exuberant fruit married with a mineral underbelly!

[C_Mc_Cart]

Voted before I read the posts, so I was surprised as many agree with me re 2002. '05 may turn out better at some point, but for the foreseeable future I think I’d put '02 ahead.
At the moment I’d put them in an approx rank of
2002
2006 (I believe generally underrated)
2005
2008 (only recently tasted a group of some better examples which were wonderful)
2001
then a gap to
2000
then another gap to
2003
2004
Haven’t tasted enough '09 1er and above to make an informed decision, but initial tastes place it in the bottom 1/3rd for the decade.

[paul_hanna]

The better '06’s seem to have shut down somewhat, in that I think they showed much better a year or more ago than they do now…still lovely drinks though.

[Tom_Blach]

@Berry Crawford

@Tom Blach

I suspect strongly that 05 is the best. I expect 01 to give me the most pleasure for various reasons, though.

Tom - I’d be curious to hear the reasons regarding 2001 if you have the time to explain.

I’ve generally found that after a bad start they’ve provided the very best chance of a great bottle when opened now, full of life and definition.This isn’t of course much of a criterion for vintage greatness and I think only a few wines will be great thirty years down the line, the point at which 05 may well hit its best. I do not like many 02s at the moment, there often being a bright confected plummy note, but I expect time will sort them out
given their health. I have come to expect great things from many 03s, and controversially from 04 too, a vintage of exceptional energy and transparency, if the curious vintage character-not IMO green, nor unique to this vintage-evolves into something less obtrusive and more attractive. 07 is a sort of 2000 plus, currently lacking heft but will bring pleasure, and 2008 is a Burgundy lovers vintage like 01, where careful selection seems necessary-but then so is it always. I do not go hugely for 09 at the moment but there will be good wines.
Fundamentally, all vintages are good if one knows when to open the bottles.

[Berry_Crawford]

Thanks Tom. For the most part I agree with your thesis regarding vintages. I really loved 2004s until the vintage character crossed my sensory threshold. Im really curious where they end up.

Interesting the you feel the greenie-meanies of 04 are not the unique to the vintage. Ive asked a number of times and people seem to have a hard time finding an analog. Curiously I bought some 1998 Drouhin Bourgognes about a year ago and they had that 04-like character. Its the only time Ive ever encountered it other than 04.

[Peter_Chiu]

@Tom Blach

@Berry Crawford

@Tom Blach

I suspect strongly that 05 is the best. I expect 01 to give me the most pleasure for various reasons, though.

Tom - I’d be curious to hear the reasons regarding 2001 if you have the time to explain.

I’ve generally found that after a bad start they’ve provided the very best chance of a great bottle when opened now, full of life and definition.This isn’t of course much of a criterion for vintage greatness and I think only a few wines will be great thirty years down the line, the point at which 05 may well hit its best. I do not like many 02s at the moment, there often being a bright confected plummy note, but I expect time will sort them out
given their health. I have come to expect great things from many 03s, and controversially from 04 too, a vintage of exceptional energy and transparency, if the curious vintage character-not IMO green, nor unique to this vintage-evolves into something less obtrusive and more attractive. 07 is a sort of 2000 plus, currently lacking heft but will bring pleasure, and 2008 is a Burgundy lovers vintage like 01, where careful selection seems necessary-but then so is it always. I do not go hugely for 09 at the moment but there will be good wines.
Fundamentally, all vintages are good if one knows when to open the bottles.

Speaking like a Burgundy sage :

Fundamentally, all vintages are good if one knows when to open the bottles

[Stuart_BeauneHead_Niemtzow]

Reminds me of similar logic of the famous quote from Philadelphia’s former mayor, Frank Rizzo, that the streets of Philadelphia are safe; it is the people that make them unsafe. http://thinkexist.com/quotation/the_streets_are_safe_in_philadelphia-it-s_only/206231.html

[Berry_Crawford]

Interesting that the only year to not get a vote is 2009. Of course it could be that the wines are just now getting here in quantity and people havn’t tasted enough yet.

[rdeangelo]

someone actually voted for 04?

[jklonecke]

2004 continues to get no love…i felt bad and voted for it! i think those wines will surprise people.

i like '02s a lot!

[CFu]

@Berry Crawford

Interesting that the only year to not get a vote is 2009. Of course it could be that the wines are just now getting here in quantity and people havn’t tasted enough yet.

we are all wine hipsters going against the establishment.

[Berry_Crawford]

@Charlie Fu

@Berry Crawford

Interesting that the only year to not get a vote is 2009. Of course it could be that the wines are just now getting here in quantity and people havn’t tasted enough yet.

we are all wine hipsters going against the establishment.

clearly

[Peter_Chiu]

@Stuart BeauneHead Niemtzow

Reminds me of similar logic of the famous quote from Philadelphia’s former mayor, Frank Rizzo, that the streets of Philadelphia are safe; it is the people that make them unsafe. http://thinkexist.com/quotation/the_streets_are_safe_in_philadelphia-it-s_only/206231.html

I love the the line : the streets of Philadelpia are safe; it is the people that make them unsafe.

Using the same logic and since I treat all my burgundy wines like my children…I love them all , including : 2004…