Noma LA 2026 | noma

This is the most recent article on Nomas finances. In case anyone is interested. Translated via ChatGPT;

Restaurant Noma ended 2024 with a profit of DKK 1.3 million, corresponding to an increase of about 23 percent compared with the previous year. This is shown in the newly published annual financial statement.

The positive result is due in part to an extraordinary item from COVID-19 support packages, which contributed DKK 1.8 million before tax. Gross profit increased to DKK 47.6 million from DKK 45.6 million the year before.

At the same time, Noma Holding reported a profit of DKK 13.8 million and equity of DKK 33.8 million. Noma plans to close its premises on Refshaleøen at the end of 2025.

After this, the restaurant will focus on temporary pop-up projects and the development of new gastronomic concepts.

I’m sure it’ll be a fantastic event and I’d love to go myself.

can’t think of it that way. Just think of it as Noma being elsewhere. They don’t do two restaurants at a time, it’s just the same restaurant somewhere else. They aren’t losing anything.

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anyone who believes that they’re not making a profit… it’s not hard to see how they can financially engineer “profit” to mean different things depending on how you categorize expenses. E.g., what’s RR’s “salary”? Anyone think he and his family flew basic economy to LA, or that his kids go to LAUSD? It would be very easy to virtue-signal with their messaging but the proof is in the pudding, and the pricing is a clear signal here.

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last i heard they are going to Crossroads.

oh come on. you think it’s great for LA restaurateurs who are already struggling over the past few years, to have an outside restaurant come in and consume so much of the limited oxygen of the LA food scene? I don’t think LA’s food scene needed RR and the type of diner who spends $1500 per person plus travel/other costs to swoop in and notch another “limited” experience on their bedposts. There are LA restaurants and chefs who live here and put their money where their mouth is by investing in homegrown staff, engaging with their communities long-term through all the $hit LA has been through with the fires, entertainment industry strikes and layoffs, ICE raids, Covid fallout, tariffs/inflation… all of it, and they need regular diners who support them for more than social media clout or who treat restaurant dining as a “concert experience.”

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@fred_o how many times did you eat out in LA last year?

What is ironic about this is that all the Chef’s and restauranteurs I know are extremely excited about Noma being in LA.

Yes I have heard a few cooks who are annoyed that they are not using any local cooks.

Really surprised to hear this unless it was a deal they couldn’t pass on. What happens to the Crossroads staff for 3+ months, unemployment $?

what do you mean? why would the staff at crossroads get unemployment?

Fred,

Thanks for correctly pointing out the difference between Instagram-“Influencer”/Veblen-goods Parker-points chasing diners (World’s 50 Best Restaurants/Jeb Dunnuck gave it 105 points!) (spending financial capital - often not a small amount - to try & buy social capital) versus diners that actually simply want to find great places to eat that are great & they love, and then continually support them, with no hype. (And what “How many times did you eat out in LA” has to do with this is, to put it politely, beyond me - anyone who has eaten out in LA or NY or any such market, or for that matter is just the most basic observer of modern American capitalist life/consumption - can easily see this. I mean, Bernard Arnault, the King of Veblen goods, is not a billionaire because he is a moron…) And I have a sneaking suspicion Rene Redzepi - 1.5 Million instagram followers! - understands this as well.

BTW, this guy has a different point of view on Noma (or he’s been listening to too much Public Enemy - Don’t Believe the Hype!)

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I think Charlie is referring to Crossroads School in Santa Monica in response to the speculation upstream about where the Redzepi children will attend school while Noma is doing its LA residency.

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The bigger hit on LA restaurants (if there is one from Noma) was the Rams losing the #1 seed.

clearly didn’t eat out enough if i didn’t talk to those same chefs who continue to try and glaze you every chance they get, no? I’m sorry for missing out on the chance to mention how your IG is more influential than Michelin, or engage in waving around the extremely impressive length of your… IG follower list, cellar of Rieslings, or whatever else, right?

more seriously, i think it’s quite possible to acknowledge that Noma and RR are obviously influential and powerful and perhaps even thoughtful in many ways, and to debate seriously about what it means for them to do these extended popups in various locales, at the price points they choose, and how this reflects on both the people who choose to partake, and the people who chose to do this in the first place. my personal opinion as someone who lives in this city full-time and sees the deep pain of the past few years among a wide swath of the population that doesn’t drink wine, that doesn’t engage in tasting menus or their ilk, and likely would never meet you, Robert, is that i think Noma LA represents more bad than good about the health of this city’s food scene. YMMV.

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Wow Fred you are an angry obnoxious person. Why the personal insults? It does not bother me so feel free to continue.

As for your comment I don’t live in the city full-time but I do have a place in LA and ate out over 50+ times last year everything from taco trucks to Michelin star restaurants. And have helped restaurants in numerous ways - I missed you at the event I did for Melody when they were struggling?? I have been telling people all over the world for several years how exciting I think the LA food scene is and trying to help in many ways. I realize it is small gesture and not going to fix the serious structural problems…but it does help. I am not sure what more an individual can do. I invest my time to write up a restaurant here, world of mouth, instagram and other spots for one simple reason and one reason only to help the restaurant. I could give a f#$k about how many followers or being called an influencer or whatever.

I would love to hear your suggestions on what would help LA. Do you think Noma should stay in Copenhagen, people should not fly to LA to eat, it should not become a dining destination like Copenhagen, Paris or Tokyo. I should not post about restaurants here or on instagram. Please tell me how I can help.

Lastly I can’t seem to find your full name I think we have a real names policy here can you please include your last name…

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I question whether a Noma residency, with its high price tag and limited number of seats, is taking much away from the larger LA food scene in terms of diners in chairs and share of wallet. Most people who eat out in LA (or anywhere) have barely heard of Noma, and the ones who have, even most of the ones who have some reverence for RR, didn’t even try to get tickets. Most people who are following it are following it as a curiosity, or a head-shaker, or an amazing-but-unobtainable spectacle. I’m sure there are a lot of LA diners who would love to go, being aware of RR and Noma from IG for years, but never even considered it an option for themselves. But I would be shocked if a measurable number have reduced their normal eating out to attend Noma. I have no idea what the percentage is of people flying in for a meal there. I suspect it’s a fair amount. I also suspect those people will eat at other LA restaurants while they are in town. My friends who live in Kyoto said that, while Noma was in town, restaurants all over were hopping. Not only that, they said interest and attendance remained higher among locals afterwards. People talked, shared recommendations, got excited about eating out in general. You could argue that the bump up from one short residency was small, temporary and limited to people inclined to eat out in the first place. But if you make that argument, you’d have to also grant the point that any taking away from the overall dining scene was also small, temporary and limited to people inclined to be interested in a restaurant like Noma in the first place.

Robert’s point about the attention and buzz this residency is bringing to the LA food scene is important and real, and I think it’s a mistake to dismiss it. We may not like everything that social media has done to the world of dining, be it fine or not – it drives me crazy that I can’t get reservations at some of my favorite places since they got attention from some famous influencer, and I’ve head numerous complaints from restauranteurs about folks showing up just to order some viral dish and take a selfie with it – but the distaste doesn’t mean I can’t see how important it is for a restaurant’s success in this day and age. Yes, there are still wonderful neighborhood places that keep going without one mention on IG ever. I love those places, seek them out and recommend them warmly when asked. No small number of those places, though, actively post on social media hoping to attract more diners. It’s the world we live in, for better or for worse. Noma’s residency in LA is certainly a child of that world, and we can hate it for the things about it that are hateful. But we don’t need to paint it with a brush it doesn’t really deserve, nor ignore the good things that come with the bad.

I think the mud slung at Robert here is unfair. Yes, he’s a very active IG influencer, and some people have a negative gut reaction against that. Fair enough, I get it. Being fair should happen on both sides, though, and it’s a mistake not to acknowledge the great amount of good Robert has single-handedly done for dozens of restaurants in NY, LA, Paris, San Francisco and beyond. I think anyone who has had even a passing look at his posts knows that Robert is far, far from focused on the Michelin stars, Top 50, celebrity chefs etc. Just as he drinks across the spectrum of the highest end wines to unknown, tiny, inexpensive producers, his restaurant attendance and support runs the gamut. He gets his ideas for new places to try from everywhere – he asks taxi drivers for recommendations of where they like to eat! And he goes to those places, writes about them, supports them (when good, lol). I honestly don’t know how he has the energy for it – it’s relentless, and his enthusiasm is boundless. It’s also boundlessly positive, excited, encouraging, broad, generous and reaches into pockets of potential diners that are far from the normal tiny circle of foodie fiends. It’s also deeply engaged and concerned. I know a lot of wealthy people who eat out all the time, but have never considered doing anything to help support a struggling community. To me, it’s not boasting when he alludes to how often he eats out, it’s establishing that what he says is based on real, first hand, experience that goes beyond what 99% of restaurant-goers ever see. He is deserving of great respect, even if he swims in a pond that you rightly find suspect.

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I agree with Sarah and Robert. At a very elementary level, one can view any local dining economy as zero sum or with the potential for expansion. While the Noma residency isn’t the kind of thing I’m personally interested in, I can see how it can benefit LA in multiple ways.

The influx of new chefs and what they will be doing can breathe life into the city’s dining scene and cause existing chefs and restaurants to up their games - i.e. new competition drives innovation. Further, I’d argue the very high price point for Noma is actually helpful to other high end restaurants. It reframes the cost of having a unique dining experience and suddenly the ~$350 it costs to go to another top restaurant in LA doesn’t seem so exorbitant.

Finally, you get the influx of people coming to LA to sample restaurants and bring new dollars to the market. It’s reasonable to argue that is a short-term stimulus to the market, but I can’t see how that is harmful. And as Sarah articulates well, even if Noma is taking away would-be diners from other restaurants that too is likely short term. Seems to me the longer term potential benefit of market expansion and infusing some excitement into the local dining scene outweighs the downsides, even if you think the local restaurant economy is zero sum.

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Ah, I didn’t see who the reply was to, thought he was re the the restaurant. Carry on…

Just saw this series of posts from the Instagram account of the former head of Noma’s fermentation lab.

Incredibly disturbing allegations. Below is just one of many being posted over there from former Noma employees.

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It’s crazy. Was talking with a chef about these issues last week, and whether we can expect meaningful change.

For so long, the argument has been that ‘stressful’ ‘high performance’ environments will inevitably involve such aggressive/abusive behavior. But it seems like everything we’re learning about performance would suggest that such abuse is counterproductive.

However, I suppose the question for achievement (see Elon Musk) is whether we can get leaders who are sufficiently driven but are also ‘nice’ ‘normal’ people.

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Hopefully there will be some change. I do think some things that were as normal just a few years ago (like hazing) are now generally seen as unacceptable today.

But, looking through the accusations, this is another level of crazy. The amount of physical violence happening in that kitchen is nuts.

As unpleasant as Elon is, I never heard him punching employees or stabbing them with a fork.

Well he operated on a much larger scale, creating different forms of toxic workplace environments.

But even without getting into a Comparative Abuser debate, my main point there was that Elon Musk always posits that if you want someone to take you to Mars, they are not going to be well-balanced, cuddly, or ‘normal’. And obviously throughout history, many ‘great’ people had lots of character ‘flaws’.

I guess the question going forward is what we’re prepared to tolerate, what the trade-offs might be, and whether these various traits really are connected, or if it’s just a lazy excuse to indulge bullies.

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