New World or Old World? (Poll)

[Matthew_Brown]

I’m close to 50/50 with daily drinkers, but the more I look to age a wine the more likely it is to be Old World.

[Rasoul_Salehi]

@Carl Jensen

new world for sure
that said, i really like southern rhones, some bbx, and sauternes

robert parker is that you?

[Rasoul_Salehi]

@Rasoul Salehi

@Carl Jensen

new world for sure
that said, i really like southern rhones, some bbx, and sauternes

robert parker is that you?

Sorry to have some fun at your expense Carl. just couldn’t resist…

on a serious note, there is a time and place for both. very contextual. the beauty is in variety and having both.

[M_Dildine]

@Brian G r a f s t r o m

Who said the results need to be meaningful? I just thought it would be interesting.

If it has no meaning, how interesting can it be?

Given the persona du jour of this Board (have you heard it said that wine drinkers are herd animals?), did you seriously believe it could have gone any other way at this point in time?

[Lewis_Dawson]

@Brian G r a f s t r o m

Who said the results need to be meaningful? I just thought it would be interesting. I find this thread and poll interesting, and hope others do, too. If you don’t, then just ignore it — no need for you (and others) to come crap on it; I said this in my OP, but you and some others just can’t resist the urge, can you?

IMO, a poll that includes a “grey area” option would be less interesting. If you read the wording of my poll carefully, you will note that I use the word “prefer.” Preferring one over the other is not a mutually exclusive thing — example: I like pepperoni pizza. I also like bacon pizza. Between the two, I prefer bacon pizza. Just because I prefer bacon pizza does not mean I don’t like pepperoni pizza, and it does not mean that I never choose pepperoni over bacon. See how simple that idea is? Of course, you probably already knew all this.

Again, this poll is meant to be FUN! If anybody isn’t having fun with it, then just ignore it. I sincerely believe nobody here is so smart that they can’t understand that concept.

So just vote, don’t discuss, is that the preferred action here?

[Pau1_M3nk3s]

@P. Davis

Brian - the world is not black and white! You’ve got to enjoy the grey!

Grey? How about rainbow! BTW my cellar is about 87% Old World but I’m buying about 50-50.

[Andrew_L]

I currently prefer old world, however, there are many excellent new world wines that I would gladly drink, but they just excite me a little less.

[Brian_G_r_a_f_s_t_r_o_m]

@Lewis Dawson

@Brian G r a f s t r o m

Who said the results need to be meaningful? I just thought it would be interesting. I find this thread and poll interesting, and hope others do, too. If you don’t, then just ignore it — no need for you (and others) to come crap on it; I said this in my OP, but you and some others just can’t resist the urge, can you?

IMO, a poll that includes a “grey area” option would be less interesting. If you read the wording of my poll carefully, you will note that I use the word “prefer.” Preferring one over the other is not a mutually exclusive thing — example: I like pepperoni pizza. I also like bacon pizza. Between the two, I prefer bacon pizza. Just because I prefer bacon pizza does not mean I don’t like pepperoni pizza, and it does not mean that I never choose pepperoni over bacon. See how simple that idea is? Of course, you probably already knew all this.

Again, this poll is meant to be FUN! If anybody isn’t having fun with it, then just ignore it. I sincerely believe nobody here is so smart that they can’t understand that concept.

So just vote, don’t discuss, is that the preferred action here?

For you, Lew, “Yes.”

[Brian_G_r_a_f_s_t_r_o_m]

@M. Dildine

@Brian G r a f s t r o m

Who said the results need to be meaningful? I just thought it would be interesting.

If it has no meaning, how interesting can it be?

Given the persona du jour of this Board (have you heard it said that wine drinkers are herd animals?), did you seriously believe it could have gone any other way at this point in time?

I’m not interested in where you’re trying to take this, Mike.

[Randy_Bowman]

I claim victimization by age, allergies, etc. Started old world and gravitated to new world. Still enjoy a few Bordeaux and Rhone wines that are fuller bodied or more fruit forward. The 3 B’s, (Burgundy, Barolo, Brunello) almost always remind me why I prefer new world wines.

[John_Oglesby]

Old World has such great value you cannot beat it on all price levels. Cotes du Rhones in the $10-20 range and work your way up in all AOC’s- it’s a steal at every level for the quality when compared to the new world. You might have a few great bottlings from a smattering of producers, but when you put those up against the literal OCEAN of wine coming out of Europe, it’s like a tugboat going up against tsunami.

Now, with that said - Old California is a lock for a humbling experience everytime I have the fortune to taste a well preserved sample.

When wine was wine…

[AKuehn]

@Berry Crawford

No, but in my experience (and I think its broad enough to be representative) one is more likely to find classicially balanced wines from Europe. Alot of this has to do with climate as well as viticultural and winemaking approaches.

Isn’t “classically” just code for Old World? After all, winemaking in most of the New World is for most purposes only about 50 years old, which pretty much means it isn’t “classical”. A wine from Napa may balanced, but it still probably won’t be “classically balanced” simply because Napa is different from the Old World. It’s kind of like saying that one is more likely to find classical music in a classical music store.

[Robert.Fleming]

@AKuehn

@Berry Crawford

No, but in my experience (and I think its broad enough to be representative) one is more likely to find classicially balanced wines from Europe. Alot of this has to do with climate as well as viticultural and winemaking approaches.

Isn’t “classically” just code for Old World? After all, winemaking in most of the New World is for most purposes only about 50 years old, which pretty much means it isn’t “classical”. A wine from Napa may balanced, but it still probably won’t be “classically balanced” simply because Napa is different from the Old World. It’s kind of like saying that one is more likely to find classical music in a classical music store.

+1, from someone who voted Old World and drinks a lot more European than American wines.

[DougS]

@Berry Crawford

@Robert.Fleming

@Blake Brown

Easy choice- old world; I finally woke up about 20 years ago and appreciated a key component for all wines- balance.

The old world hasn’t cornered the market for balance. Not by a long shot.

No, but in my experience (and I think its broad enough to be representative) one is more likely to find classicially balanced wines from Europe. Alot of this has to do with climate as well as viticultural and winemaking approaches.

absolutely. far more likely, largely for the reasons mentioned.

I love many New World wines (and, yes, many are balanced, but I think it is FAR from the majority), but I drink predominately Old World.

[DougS]

@AKuehn

@Berry Crawford

No, but in my experience (and I think its broad enough to be representative) one is more likely to find classicially balanced wines from Europe. Alot of this has to do with climate as well as viticultural and winemaking approaches.

Isn’t “classically” just code for Old World? After all, winemaking in most of the New World is for most purposes only about 50 years old, which pretty much means it isn’t “classical”. A wine from Napa may balanced, but it still probably won’t be “classically balanced” simply because Napa is different from the Old World. It’s kind of like saying that one is more likely to find classical music in a classical music store.

Then take “classically” out of the statement and it still rings true. Balance is balance.

[BobH]

Old world for me, Brian. Buying more and more France nowadays, espcially expanding to Loire and burgundy recently. I sitll always make sure I have plenty of German reislings in the cellar.

[Brian_G_r_a_f_s_t_r_o_m]

For those of you who started off with New World, and then eventually gravitated to Old World, was that a function of your palate preferences changing, or was it a function of you were first exposed to New World wines and then later exposed to Old World wines (and you immediately liked the Old World wines, once you were finally exposed to them).

I believe I could have saved lots of time and money had I started off with Old World wines (as I never disliked them), but I didn’t; I was initially exposed to New World wines and most Old World wine labels require more knowledge to navigate than do those of most New World wines.

[Brian_G_r_a_f_s_t_r_o_m]

I find it interesting that the poll results have continually held at a near-perfect 3:1 ratio; at one point, I saw 4:1, but it quickly reverted back to 3:1, and has held steady since.

[mike_pobega]

After new world for me will be dirt world.

[Brian_Tuite]

I like both but based on my cellar I had to opt New World. Proof is in the pudding as they say.