Need a red wine with almost no tannins, buyable in Florida or shippable to Florida

[Jason_T]

Allergic to tannins…I’ve heard that before, and done some reading. The only “information” I can find online seems to be based on the assumption that one can be allergic to tannins, without any facts to confirm that idea. There are usually phrases like this (a quote from one of the official-looking pages proclaiming such things):

Then when I hear no tannin, no sulfite, I really start to wonder why he thinks these things are to blame.

If he’s drinking Columbia Crest cab, my guess is he has no problem with sulfites!

(Why does the Apple spellchecker insist on changing “sulfites” to “sulfates”? No wine drinkers in Cupertino?)

the problem with this post is, if he’s drinking CC cab I doubt there is a problem with sulfites OR tannins. unless of course he’s drinking it despite the fact that he reacts to it, which is just silly. I don’t understand this whole post. its like “I have a friend who hates high acid wines and is looking for low acid suggestions. his favorite wine is donnhoff estate riesling trocken.”

wines that are similar to Columbia crest almost never are gonna be low tannin. I suggested a bunch of stuff above that is actually low tannin and sulfur, but like your first post implied, they’re obviously nothing like CC Cabernet. I don’t think you can have both.

This.

[Tom_G_l_a_s_g_o_w]

Can someone please explain the joke!

[dteng]

If he’s drinking Columbia Crest, I’d buy him a Woodward Canyon, and some Benadryl.

[Mattstolz]

Can someone please explain the joke!

is there a board joke here somewhere? this does seem like a weird question for an OP with 3k+ posts!

[John_Morris]

If he’s drinking Columbia Crest, I’d buy him a Woodward Canyon, and some Benadryl.

[Robert_M_yers]

Seems too obvious, Go with the Colombia crest reserve Walter Clore.

[Eric_S_n_y_d_e_r]

Duckhorn Merlot

[AndyK]

Barbera has very low tannins and it’s delicious…

[Otto_Forsberg]

Barbera has very low tannins and it’s delicious…

This was probably the smartest suggestion thus far.

I doubt anybody is actually allergic to tannins, because there are so many other products than wine that have tannins. However, most of the suggestions above tend to have quite a bit of tannins, even though you don’t taste them.

The only red wines actually low in tannins are Barbera, Poulsard and the other few varieties that are actually very low in tannins. Pinot Noir and Gamay might be low in tannins compared to Cab, but you can still make some impressively tannic wines out of them if you macerate long and aggressively. You can’t make Barbera or Poulsard tannic no matter what you do (unless introducing some wood tannins to the wine during the aging).

Of course the other option is to go with the cheapest mass-marketed red wines. Most of them have their tannins filtered away for that smooth, soft and juicy mouthfeel the consumers love.

[Howard_Cooper]

my first thought is a wine made by carbonic maceration. What is Carbonic Maceration? | Wine Enthusiast That would make me go for Beaujolais, but Beaujolais tastes very different from what he is used to. I then went to Dirty and Rowdy Mourvedre Familiar, which I think is made using carbonic maceration. https://www.dirtyandrowdy.com/store You might check with Hardy Wallace, who frequents this board from time to time or pm him, regarding tannin levels of the wine.

Not sure you could find this at a store, but you may be able to have it shipped to you.

[Robert_M_yers]

Is it meant to be a gift with the intention that the person will immediately love it, or is it an exercise in which to expand the recipients knowledge of wine? When I’ve bought non serious wine drinkers bottles in the past, something “better” that they are familiar with always goes over with more success as a gift than some obscure to them label.

[George_Chadwick]

Is it meant to be a gift with the intention that the person will immediately love it, or is it an exercise in which to expand the recipients knowledge of wine? When I’ve bought non serious wine drinkers bottles in the past, something “better” that they are familiar with always goes over with more success as a gift than some obscure to them label.

Exactly, in this situation. It’s for a client so something he’ll be pleased to see upon receipt or at least upon first sip. I like giving wines that expand horizons, this is not that situation.

[Chris_Seiber]

I kind of doubt the premise of the friend’s question would survive much examination.

But just to answer it anyway, your riper, lower acid zins would be an option. For example, Seghesio. Very low tannin, goes with similar foods as does the Columbia Crest, yet ripe and tasty to the civilian palate.

[Robert_M_yers]

Is it meant to be a gift with the intention that the person will immediately love it, or is it an exercise in which to expand the recipients knowledge of wine? When I’ve bought non serious wine drinkers bottles in the past, something “better” that they are familiar with always goes over with more success as a gift than some obscure to them label.

Exactly, in this situation. It’s for a client so something he’ll be pleased to see upon receipt or at least upon first sip. I like giving wines that expand horizons, this is not that situation.

Kind of what I assumed, which is why I recommended going straight to the top of the CC line with the Walter Clore. Is it better than H3…well it’s smoother, plusher in that it’s certainly from better fruit sources. Probably something he doesnt know exists because most supermarkets don’t carry it, but he knows he likes the label.

Or probably Caymus, or one of those Orin swift wines with the crazy packaging. Isn’t that what these things were made for

[Chris_Seiber]

Seems too obvious, Go with the Colombia crest reserve Walter Clore.

Great idea. That’s a good wine, should be similar to what he’s drinking overall just better. Nice enough to seem like a gift.

[H_Wallace_Jr]

I then went to Dirty and Rowdy Mourvedre Familiar, which I think is made using carbonic maceration. https://www.dirtyandrowdy.com/store You might check with Hardy Wallace, who frequents this board from time to time or pm him, regarding tannin levels of the wine.

Howard - Thanks for thinking of us.

For my brother’s client in Miami. I think he’s allergic to tannins, but maybe a no sulfite no tannins wine would be best. He likes the Columbia Crest Horseheaven H3 blend, my brother would like to get him something fancier. The best store in his area for him to shop is Total Wine.

George, our Familiar Mourvèdre is lower tannin but still has tannin. If someone is allergic to tannin I would hesitate to offer any of our wines (red or white).

Without knowing the severity of the allergy this sounds like benefit is not worth the risk in sending wine.

[Howard_Cooper]

George, our Familiar Mourvèdre is lower tannin but still has tannin. If someone is allergic to tannin I would hesitate to offer any of our wines (red or white).

Without knowing the severity of the allergy this sounds like benefit is not worth the risk in sending wine.

Are there any red wines without any tannin? Maybe Hurricane or Boone’s Farm Strawberry Hill, but any others?

[Tom_G_l_a_s_g_o_w]

I then went to Dirty and Rowdy Mourvedre Familiar, which I think is made using carbonic maceration. https://www.dirtyandrowdy.com/store You might check with Hardy Wallace, who frequents this board from time to time or pm him, regarding tannin levels of the wine.

Howard - Thanks for thinking of us.

For my brother’s client in Miami. I think he’s allergic to tannins, but maybe a no sulfite no tannins wine would be best. He likes the Columbia Crest Horseheaven H3 blend, my brother would like to get him something fancier. The best store in his area for him to shop is Total Wine.

George, our Familiar Mourvèdre is lower tannin but still has tannin. If someone is allergic to tannin I would hesitate to offer any of our wines (red or white).

Without knowing the severity of the allergy this sounds like benefit is not worth the risk in sending wine.

Surely you wouldn’t have a problem with giving a client anaphylaxis? What kind of businessperson are you?

[George_Chadwick]

All done guys, most of you were helpful, thanks. My brother will get wines for his client from among the helpful comments, I forwarded all of them.

[Scott_Brunson]

Don’t overthink it. If he likes Columbia Crest look for something in the same style and availability. Chateau St Michelle Indian Wells Cabernet Sauvignon is made is the same generous style (it’s the same company!) and it should be available at numerous shops in Florida, assuming they are open. If not it’s easily found elsewhere and can be shipped.

Tom

Good call. I think I’ve seen it at Costco in Boca.