My first international sale - finally the asian markets working in my favor

WINE TALK
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Recieved this e-mail. I still haven’t put any wine in bottle and already I can sell in Asia. newhere


Anna Maldonado , an American . I live and work here in Bangkok, Thailand. Actually when I was around last time , I got a bottle of one of your wines from a friend as a gift and I love the taste .Since then , I have been planning on getting your wines for my birthday party coming up soon here in Bangkok, Thailand. I got your contact through your website and I want to know if you will be able to supply me some cases of wines for my upcoming birthday … I will be making my payment via my American based credit card . I am registered with a shipping agency here in Bangkok, which has representatives in USA . So you are not get the wines shipped but the wines will be picked up at your winery by this licensed shipping agency .The shipping agency have all the appropriate exportation documents and permits . Therefore concerning the shipping of the wines , I will refer you to this shipping company that will come for the pick up of the wines in your winery once i have made my payment .They have got like items shipped to me here twice without any delay . Kindly get back to me for faster response so that I can make my orders .



I am sure this must be legit. They have done it twice before.

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Loren,

Make sure you include, within your two cases of wine, a little thank you gift.

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I’d bet your Thai is vastly superior to this gentleman’s English. Well done!

pileon




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ก่อน ปิด จะ ไม่ ผู้ชาย ก็ ผู้หญิง. สอง ผม คาด เดา เรื่อง ตลก มี หาย ท่าน Andrew. วิธี การ ของ ที่?

How’s that? newhere

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Looks legit to me. Heck, they’re even going to pay in advance. How could you lose there?

hitsfan

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ฉัน ก็ สามารถ ใช้ google แปล ไม่ ทำให้ ความ รู้สึก ของ ท่าน ใด ไม่ แบ่งแยก เชื้อชาติ.

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I heard from a couple wineries about this. One thought they were legit and googled looking for more info. They came up with this thread and saved themselves a bunch of wine. Glad I posted.

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Loren,

How could anyone think that e-mail was legit? Man, those wineries should be thinking about hiring someone who is not so…um…how should I say this nicely…“trusting”?? newhere

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Seems like a great way for you to unload any excess Mega-Purple you have left over…

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Small wineries with little internet exposure (one was from NY). Really needs to move some wine, so they want to believe. Luckily, they did a little searching first.

I know retailers often get scammed similar to this on Dom Perignon orders. Seems like it gets posted a couple of times a year. I think you forget not all people are as in to the Internet as people on this BB are.

If those scams didn’t work on someone, they would not keep trying I think.

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Loren, so what’s the trick here? They cancel the credit card payment after somebody picks up the wine? They use a stolen CC?

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My guess is the later. That is how the Dom scams worked.

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Your first sentence leads me to rule out Johnny Z. Your second and third ones lead me to rule him back in. [foilhat.gif]

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Received the same email at our winery. Thanks for the post.

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In my opinion from purely a business point of view:

When a small U.S. winery is considering doing business with buyers in foreign countries, I would not take credit card payments, but wire transfers only. They cannot be reversed. There are also a few countries in particular that I would have a NO SELL policy. I will not name them, but just check ebay and with some research, you will find out which ones are scam capitals.

Never accept CC or paypal until a buyer establishes a track record and then still proceed with caution. The amount of profitability on that “one” international sale is not worth the risk. It is always a risk vs. reward thing. If the consumer truly wishes to buy your wine, they should have no problem wiring funds. If they balk at it , then its most likely not legitimate.

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I have been getting a steady stream of calls about this thread. Small wineries who really need/want to make the sale but are not internet savy at least google the names and find this thread. Just had a Napa winery call me yesterday. Good avice about the wire transfer.

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I wished her a happy birthday.