whenever i see someone open a 96 ramonet on IG and say it’s amazing, I want to comment “you’re lying, there aren’t any non oxidized ramonet from 96”
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See here: TN: 1999 Maison Bertrand Ambroise Nuits St. Georges 1er Cru Les Vaucrains - WINE TALK - WineBerserkers Dreadful winemaking.
Tied for greatest disappointment:
05 Clos des Papes
03 Delas Hermitage
1947 Cheval Blanc Van der Muelen bottling. A dozen people were excited to try it. Tasted like skunk
Very sorry to hear that as I have 2 btls of the 2012 Mon Aieul aging until they’re ready. Better now, or later?
Better you than me.
Rather than corked/premoxed bottles, arguably my biggest disappointment was opening up a long stored 1990 Leoville las Cases for my friend’s weddings a surprise. It was just a really boring wine that didn’t develop into anything interesting even after 2 hours in a decanter.
I can’t speak to the 2012…this may be a producer where the “lesser” vintages are better than the supposedly “great” vintages. In general, however, I would think most 2012 CdPs would be good to drink now and over the next couple of years.
I can’t help but hop aboard the CDP bandwagon. I would say pretty much every one over ten years old has been disappointing – with the notable exception of 89/90 Pegau, Beaucastel and Mont Redon. Thankfully I didn’t go too crazy with CDP, but as soon as I came to this realization I did sell a prized lot of Rayas.
I’ve had 96 Ramonet Montrachet in the recent past and it was amazing. Or maybe I’m lying…
easy: one producer springs to mind and way ahead of everyone else: god damn rene rostaing. wasted well over a $2000 bucks on landone and cote blonde bottlings of various vintages thru RWC. elegance and restraint and understated quality are one thing, totally boring, majorly under extracted, thin and simple are another.
why buy so many and blind? i felt given his family relations, inheriting some of the best if not the best parcels EVER would amount to something. esp RWC weight behind them. but oh boy was i ever wrong. plus prices seems somewhat reasonable.
fortunately i tried a few with age before RWC and other retailers started to offer it en mas recently. Totally agree
I know I just shat on aged CDP, but, as a few had mentioned Usseglio Mon Aieul above, I had the 2000 last night and it was just delicious. It retained the power and freshness of a young wine with the character and nuance of the older wine that it is. No heat at all, perfectly in balance. And IMHO it is not even close to old age. Recorked and saved a final glass for tonight.
Are there any redeeming features? Took a flyer on the 2016 Rostaing Landonne and now thinking if I should consign instead of drink
The son is now making the wine, and I think that is an improvement
Any opinions on the 2010? The CT notes are superb, for what it’s worth.
1986 Pichon Lalande corked, most of a case.
I love CdP, but I have aged too many too long. I like them at 5-10 outside of long aging wines like Rayas, Beaucastel and a couple others.
1991 Dominus. Not corked, not V.A., but a complete disappointment when I opened it. It simply wasn’t right.
Wow. That’s a shame.