Killer Loire/Chinon (1977-2010) Night w/Tooch, Corey N., and Marc F. [and a '65 Mouton for kicks]

Brad_Kane · January 20, 2016, 7:20pm

Corey N.:

1995 Foreau Domaine du Clos Naudin Vouvray Moelleux Réserve When Bobby told me the theme, I asked him what I could bring and mentioned I had a couple of older Clos Naudin Moelleux’s. Dude was psyched because the ever so patient Chris loves Vouvray. Well now, here’s the funny part [CONFESSION TIME!]…this is actually the second time I brought this wine to a wine dinner. The first time, I brought it to NYC after clearing it with Georgie Porgie Puddin and Pie. “Do you think this would work?”, said I. “Awesome wine”, said he. Needless to say, when I pulled it out at our dinner in Crooklyn, Suzanne looked over the bottle and said “Vouvray? That’s what Brad Kane drinks” and unceremoniously handed the bottle back to me, rejecting the wine like Manute Bol rejected a layup from Spud Webb – clear into the cheap seats. Needless to say Georgie Porgie said not one word in my defense as the wine bottle made the vinous equivalent of the walk of shame. Well it turns out that Suzanne was a bit hasty because the wine was stellar. Lots of honey, wax, yellow fruit, and a hint of florals with medium+ sweetness balanced by a copious dose of acidity. I really liked this a lot.

Very odd comment from Suzanne, Corey, as she’s certainly brought plenty of Vouvray to dinners. As you say, the wine is terrific. Not super sweet, especially for his Reserve bottling, but it has great intensity and riveting acidity.

Corey_N · January 20, 2016, 7:43pm

Apparently she only drinks Vouvray to humor you, Brad.

Just to be 100% clear, I love Suzanne to bits (great palate and cool as all get out – WAY cooler than Robert – what’s not to like?) I felt awful because the other wine that I brought that night was an ex-cellar Castello di Monsanto Chianti Classico Riserva Il Poggio that ended up being DOA.

The scoundrel that evening was Georgie, who offered nary a peep in my defense, as I sat there alone, cold, and thoroughly humiliated. Mind you, I like being thoroughly humiliated and I’m willing to pay for the experience, but dammit, I want to do it on my terms.

johngonzales · January 21, 2016, 1:34am

Is there going to be a Berserker Day discount on the sex tape?

I blame this on Alfert’s decision to spend his 50th birthday in the mountains. The wilderness got to him. He came back with a perverted concept of what a normal male mid-life crisis is supposed to be.

Robert.A.Jr · January 21, 2016, 2:10am

I may even go buy a Corvette and work on my Cubanaso.

Marc_Frontario · January 21, 2016, 2:58am

Funny, he did mention to me about the next themed dinner centered around a Pig Roast, must be derived from all that post traumatic Ned Beatty squealing emerging from his subconscious.

Corey_N · January 21, 2016, 3:12am

Did somebody say pig roast? You’re practically begging me to return.

Matt_Neel · January 21, 2016, 4:27am

Brad Kane:

Corey N.:

1995 Foreau Domaine du Clos Naudin Vouvray Moelleux Réserve When Bobby told me the theme, I asked him what I could bring and mentioned I had a couple of older Clos Naudin Moelleux’s. Dude was psyched because the ever so patient Chris loves Vouvray. Well now, here’s the funny part [CONFESSION TIME!]…this is actually the second time I brought this wine to a wine dinner. The first time, I brought it to NYC after clearing it with Georgie Porgie Puddin and Pie. “Do you think this would work?”, said I. “Awesome wine”, said he. Needless to say, when I pulled it out at our dinner in Crooklyn, Suzanne looked over the bottle and said “Vouvray? That’s what Brad Kane drinks” and unceremoniously handed the bottle back to me, rejecting the wine like Manute Bol rejected a layup from Spud Webb – clear into the cheap seats. Needless to say Georgie Porgie said not one word in my defense as the wine bottle made the vinous equivalent of the walk of shame. Well it turns out that Suzanne was a bit hasty because the wine was stellar. Lots of honey, wax, yellow fruit, and a hint of florals with medium+ sweetness balanced by a copious dose of acidity. I really liked this a lot.

Very odd comment from Suzanne, Corey, as she’s certainly brought plenty of Vouvray to dinners. As you say, the wine is terrific. Not super sweet, especially for his Reserve bottling, but it has great intensity and riveting acidity.

Hilarious story – nice! Suzanne’s got a spot-on palate and one well tolerant of stern acidity. Unlike you, Brad…

Sounds like a great night, look forward to meeting you one day, Corey, and can I just say: this is the best thread I’ve read in a long time (been buried in the PC post-holocaust…).

Cheers!

Claus_Jeppesen · January 21, 2016, 4:50pm

I could sense from previous posts from the participants in this romantic tale that this thread was good. But this is Nobel quality!
As a fellow maschocist who enjoys Chinon and other Loire reds (insipid, herbaceous, green, unripe), I thank Thee for the interesting notes. Especially on the mature
CHINON. I am envious

Brad_Kane · January 21, 2016, 6:39pm

Matt Neel:

Brad Kane:

Corey N.:

1995 Foreau Domaine du Clos Naudin Vouvray Moelleux Réserve When Bobby told me the theme, I asked him what I could bring and mentioned I had a couple of older Clos Naudin Moelleux’s. Dude was psyched because the ever so patient Chris loves Vouvray. Well now, here’s the funny part [CONFESSION TIME!]…this is actually the second time I brought this wine to a wine dinner. The first time, I brought it to NYC after clearing it with Georgie Porgie Puddin and Pie. “Do you think this would work?”, said I. “Awesome wine”, said he. Needless to say, when I pulled it out at our dinner in Crooklyn, Suzanne looked over the bottle and said “Vouvray? That’s what Brad Kane drinks” and unceremoniously handed the bottle back to me, rejecting the wine like Manute Bol rejected a layup from Spud Webb – clear into the cheap seats. Needless to say Georgie Porgie said not one word in my defense as the wine bottle made the vinous equivalent of the walk of shame. Well it turns out that Suzanne was a bit hasty because the wine was stellar. Lots of honey, wax, yellow fruit, and a hint of florals with medium+ sweetness balanced by a copious dose of acidity. I really liked this a lot.

Very odd comment from Suzanne, Corey, as she’s certainly brought plenty of Vouvray to dinners. As you say, the wine is terrific. Not super sweet, especially for his Reserve bottling, but it has great intensity and riveting acidity.

Hilarious story – nice! Suzanne’s got a spot-on palate and one well tolerant of stern acidity. Unlike you, Brad…

Huh? I love acidity in whites. It’s oak I can’t stand.

Robert.A.Jr · January 22, 2016, 1:06am

Clearing out some iPhone pics and saw this, for the fans of Thunder Mountain!

Classicly cheesy label!

Brad_Kane · January 22, 2016, 1:19am

The thing behind the label was, Milan saw it as his alter ego.

CJ_Beazley · January 22, 2016, 1:22am

The label looks like one of those romance novels at the grocery store, that might be what got Corey so hot and bothered.

Robert.A.Jr · January 22, 2016, 2:01am

Do tell Brad, share the back-story!

What other wines did he make?

Matt_Neel · January 22, 2016, 2:10am

Totally kidding. You and I both love high acidity in whites (and me in reds, mostly, too). Hence the

Brad_Kane · January 22, 2016, 3:50am

I don’t recall any other story other than he just used to say it was his alter ego.

I found an old site that lists a bunch of the wines he made here: Thunder Mountain Winery Details

Also, a nice write up back in the day of his passing on the Gang of Pour’s website: Milan in Santa Cruz - A Remembrance

Marc_Frontario · January 22, 2016, 10:35am

I am afraid to ask what Corey’s alter ego would look like

Marc_Frontario · January 22, 2016, 10:53am

That was a sincere heartfelt homage on Milan. Wish I could of met this man.
His '97 TM cab franc is quite brilliant. This bottle woke me up to remind me what Cali can do with wine. I have parted ways with California sometime ago. I would have never left if wines like these were still being made or Havens.(the real Havens)…which I think is back now as Cave Dog.

Corey_N · January 22, 2016, 8:01pm

The only question is whether to emphasize the assless chaps or the codpiece.

Corey_N · January 22, 2016, 8:07pm

Matt – if you genuinely want to meet up, it’s probably best not to ask Suzanne about me or she’ll advise you to snub me like a bottle of 1995 Foreau Domaine du Clos Naudin Vouvray Moelleux Réserve.

Brad_Kane · January 22, 2016, 8:09pm

Dude, bring that Foreau again and we’ll do our own jeeb.