Kei Shiogai

Any insights on this producer? Im hearing they are a rising star of sorts… TIA for any info/perspective/tasting notes

I have some bottles. Not opened one yet.

He is very active on Insta. Check that out.

cool thanks!

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Doesn’t look like @CFu is a big fan from his Instagram. :wink:

I haven’t had the chance myself, but have many trusted wine friends that have tasted a wide range of his wines now.

Overall; nice wines that fit the “current trend” of low SO2, whole cluster and light extraction with highly aromatic Pinot Noir - and at the price of ~€60-100 for the Pommard for example, they’re nice. Alas, they all say that they are no where near the level of the second market prices reaching as high as $1,000 for the regular Pommard… You are moving in to wines like Dujac, Rousseau and Mugnier - and not even just their Village wines…

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I think the village wines are more than that on the primary market?

My understanding is that his involvement varies considerably from cuvee to cuvee…

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If that’s true, that’s really not a good thing.

I don’t get all of these gitchy producers and their meteoric rise? It almost feels like a Reddit subforum wine with how it takes off out of the blue. You can still buy Dujac Clos de la Roche for under $1000 a bottle, and the future value of that wine is straight up. I’ve seen the prices of Arnoux go up and come back down. Prieur-Roch is starting to do the same, and those are actually good wines with a pretty long track record.

Not knocking the quality because I haven’t had them, but if there is a question as to his involvement with some of the wines? What are you actually buying and paying for?

Well most Negoce operations are somewhat opaque. No?

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Rumpelstiltskin made gold, not wine :wink:

Kidding aside, I think there are reasons for that.

The truth is that it doesn’t have to be.

I saw the Pommard 2020 for €75 in Beaune last summer.

Maybe I’m thinking of the Pellans then.

Haven’t tried these either but Vivino sells them if that helps.