Kamala Harris: A closet Berserker?

[Al_Osterheld]

Yep. I was kind of picturing some low on the totem pole agent having to go grab them. At the very least, an intern.

Can’t have a gov’t ee pick personal things up for you. That’s a no-no

Would that apply even to someone who is subject to Secret Service protection? Seems like it would cost the taxpayers less to have an aide pick up her wine than require her to do it herself, which means we have to pay for the armored limo with the driver and three-person security detail to accompany her… Not that “sensible” is a universal requirement when it comes to government rules…

She can pay an aide with her own money to do those things. She can do it herself and have a detail (which maybe she would have in any case). But, no government funded aides to pick up personal wine purchases. This is pretty basic ethics stuff, although it’s been awhile since all levels of government worried about such things.

-Al

[AD_Northup]

Can’t have a gov’t ee pick personal things up for you. That’s a no-no

Would that apply even to someone who is subject to Secret Service protection? Seems like it would cost the taxpayers less to have an aide pick up her wine than require her to do it herself, which means we have to pay for the armored limo with the driver and three-person security detail to accompany her… Not that “sensible” is a universal requirement when it comes to government rules…

She can pay an aide with her own money to do those things. She can do it herself and have a detail (which maybe she would have in any case). But, no government funded aides to pick up personal wine purchases. This is pretty basic ethics stuff, although it’s been awhile since all levels of government worried about such things.

-Al

But do you pay business or residential shipping rates to the White House?

[Anton_D]

Would that apply even to someone who is subject to Secret Service protection? Seems like it would cost the taxpayers less to have an aide pick up her wine than require her to do it herself, which means we have to pay for the armored limo with the driver and three-person security detail to accompany her… Not that “sensible” is a universal requirement when it comes to government rules…

She can pay an aide with her own money to do those things. She can do it herself and have a detail (which maybe she would have in any case). But, no government funded aides to pick up personal wine purchases. This is pretty basic ethics stuff, although it’s been awhile since all levels of government worried about such things.

-Al

But do you pay business or residential shipping rates to the White House?

I think someone is getting a little ahead of himself, but I like your thinking!

[Dav3_Dyr0ff]

Can’t have a gov’t ee pick personal things up for you. That’s a no-no

Would that apply even to someone who is subject to Secret Service protection? Seems like it would cost the taxpayers less to have an aide pick up her wine than require her to do it herself, which means we have to pay for the armored limo with the driver and three-person security detail to accompany her… Not that “sensible” is a universal requirement when it comes to government rules…

She can pay an aide with her own money to do those things. She can do it herself and have a detail (which maybe she would have in any case). But, no government funded aides to pick up personal wine purchases. This is pretty basic ethics stuff, although it’s been awhile since all levels of government worried about such things.

-Al

I get the ethics of it, of course. But the underlying reason for the ethical rule ceases to exist when you would be saving the taxpayers money by using a govt-paid aide to run the errand or perform the service vs doing it yourself when you’re one of the few who have a 24 hour security detail that costs a lot more than the aide anytime you head out in public. I think of Harry Truman buying his own stamps for personal letters to avoid running personal expenses through the government. If I’m thinking like Harry and trying to save the government money, I’d send an aide rather than require the people’s money to gas up and staff the armored limo. I was just wondering if that kind of sensible exception had made it into the rules for those very few people at that level of security. I can also see not making the exception because “security” is a government expense" and “wine pickup” is a personal errand so even though the dollars don’t make sense, you don’t want to start making exceptions to the principle.

[Anton_D]

For a President or Vice President, I wonder how they make sure the wine is safe.

What if she ordered wine from Jordan Winery?
This is only a joke. I do not think Jordan Winery would try to poison anybody.One kook in the warehouse could really create a trail of destruction.


There’s a Steven Seagal movie for ya.

[Alan_Rath]

Heck with who picks up wine. If I’m VP, I’m getting myself on the direct list for Coche, Roumier, Chave and Allemand

[Dav3_Dyr0ff]

Heck with who picks up wine. If I’m VP, I’m getting myself on the direct list for Coche, Roumier, Chave and Allemand

Sorry, you CANNOT issue an executive order placing yourself on the Wilson-Daniels private client list for DRC! Kennedy v. DeVillaine, US Supreme Court, 1962.

[Alan_Rath]

Heck with who picks up wine. If I’m VP, I’m getting myself on the direct list for Coche, Roumier, Chave and Allemand

Sorry, you CANNOT issue an executive order placing yourself on the Wilson-Daniels private client list for DRC! Kennedy v. DeVillaine, US Supreme Court, 1962.

Note that I kept it under the radar just enough to avoid congressional scrutiny

[Howard_Cooper]

More on Harris and wine. Kamala Harris Knows Her Wine - Washingtonian

[CFu]

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[Dav3_Dyr0ff]

California oak?

I hope that is a misquote of the wine bar owner.

[David_Bu3ker]

What if she ordered wine from Jordan Winery?

This is only a joke. I do not think Jordan Winery would try to poison anybody.

Noor would any other winery. Bad for business.

[Tim_Fleming]

@Chris_Crutchfield

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[Bill_James]

Actually been some great reading here. Love the puns early on! My own opinion is…whether you’re the VP or the Prez, it’s your PERSONAL expenditure to procure said wines (or in my case, Cuban cigars). Anything else, would be an ethics violation (in my humble opinion, of course).

[Alan_Rath]

Todd can delete this, but I’m laughing at the idea that we’re seriously worried that our worst ethics problems are that a Vice President might have an assistant pick up wine for her

[Mattstolz]

I just came in here to say hopefully this means we’d have some support on tariffs but then I stayed for the puns.

[Dav3_Dyr0ff]

Todd can delete this, but I’m laughing at the idea that we’re seriously worried that our worst ethics problems are that a Vice President might have an assistant pick up wine for her

What if the aide was also a wine club member, picking up his or her own allocation, and just offered to pick up the Veep’s allocation for her while there?

She could Fillmore space in her cellar that way, hopefully without Piercing any ethics rules.

[Alan_Rath]

She could Fillmore space in her cellar that way, hopefully without Piercing any ethics rules.

I’ll Grant you that.

[Jay_Miller]

I suppose the ethics rules mean she’ll be washing a ton of glassware herself?

[Anton_D]

She could Fillmore space in her cellar that way, hopefully without Piercing any ethics rules.

I’ll Grant you that.

So true, man.