I’ve had only two classed bottles of 2000 Bordeaux this year, but they have both been in their window, in my opinion. Wrote brief notes on a Giscours Margaux, 3rd classed growth, I believe first year under Van Beek. Posted in the recent wines drunk topic. It drank well in its window, as I remember it. So, based on my own limited exposure, I’d generally answer yes to the topic question.
The senior Bordeaux buyer at a local wine shop was going off on a rant about 2000 Bordeaux at a recent tasting. (Not going to name names but I’m sure everyone around here knows who this is.) Says he thought the vintage was overrated from the beginning, and was/is and always will be hard-edged and unforgiving. He much prefers 1999.
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Your “farewell to Bordeaux buying” record is worse than Elton John’s farewell to touring!
Btw, you need to track down a bottle of 2021 Carmes Haut Brion. Like Rougeard Poyeaux at 1/3 the price!
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It’s a good wine, I even liked it and usually dislike cf heavy wines.
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So
Mean!
Checking WineSearcher…
Very, very few, perhaps Clerc Milon and Magdelaine. The majority are not approachable at all.
Had the 2000 Montrose Saturday. Three hour decant. Fill fine, cork in excellent shape; bought in 2003-04. Nose was beautiful, lovely lighter purple color with some bricking on the edges. Paired with ribeyes. Seemed ready to contribute to a great evening. First sip, nice but somewhat muted. Drank over a couple of hours with little change. Paired nicely with the steak but was not memorable. The nose and the color suggested to me that it would be better than it actually was. Can’t guess on how long to hold, but I will wait a few years before trying the next '00 Montrose.
00 haut brion snd rauzan segla were good last year.
I feel like the 2000 Lafon Rochet is getting tired. I have had it many times, and still have a bit left, and its thinning out.
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Had the 2000 Latour a few times in the past years, once in ‘22, ‘23, and ‘24. With a decant, a really well structured wine that wasn’t closed. Still predominantly primary, but that didn’t take away from any of the enjoyment.
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2000 Beychevelle on Christmas Eve 2023 was stunning. I still recall my dad and I sitting in silence for a few minutes marveling at the wine.
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Im around the same age and in general think 2025 will probably be my last big vintage purchase for Bordeaux and Pinot (for ageing). Ive had a lot of 90s wine over the last 2 years and ive consistently liked that age more than the 2000s ive had. Id rather buy more now and backfill the last 20 years then buy 2035 vintage and drink it young.
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Took down a 2000 Lynch Bages today. Was open after about an hour in the decanter, and better after 4. It was surprisingly high toned and red fruited, cherry, hints of strawberry. interlaced with dark cassis, blackberry, and a touch of boysenberry. The wine presented signature graphite and pencil notes with a slightly earthy smoky tint. The wine was velvet on the palette. The finish was slightly short and felt slightly clipped at ~30 seconds. A very pleasant wine, but lacked the wow factor. 93pts.
Thanks. I tend to be in the spot as you.I was on the fence, but I’ve taken the plunge on the 22’s and have gotten a couple mixed cases (that’s a lot for me lol). I really like what I’ve read about the vintage thus far.
I’m also trying to backfill various wines.
I am sure this has been debated ad nauseum on here but are we sure these new vintages are going to need all the time that some of these older vintages did?
I would have thought in Florida a black fly would be too small to be noticed compared to the bigger insects, etc., that you have there.
My sense is that they may not need as much time to be pleasurable to drink, but i cant imagine they will develop aged flavors any quicker.
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I’ve been slowly chewing through a number of the 2000 Saint Pierre [St Julien] and it continues to be a classic, midweight Medoc. My thoughts are similar to a prior bottle a year or so ago: currants, pencil, rhubarb, and some acid. I took the effort to double decant this, but sediment was very light in any case, but I think that helped a touch on the first night. Served admirably with left over beef pot roast, but (predictably) less so with clams & orechiette the next night. I didn’t enjoy this as much as prior bottles and will notch it down to a B+, but I think AFWE cabernet lovers would like this mature blend more.
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Well, one that is really not ready, judging by my bottle, is Léoville-Barton . On the first evening, I thought it might be flawed: very mute aromas and fruit, thick and chewy, no joy at all. So I put it back in the cellar and three days later, it was a lot better, with typical Christmas cake aromas and the usual Barton spicy dark fruit. But still not as good as I expected. It’s been in my cellar since release, the fill was perfect and the cork barely showing any wine stain at all. Bought EP so perhaps a transit issue, but really my instinct tells me that it just hasn’t woken up yet, so judgement reserved.
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Would it be a bad idea to open a Pichon Lalande from this vintage?
I saw your note on CT. Funny, I had this recently and thought it was starting to open up. I had purchased 1/2 case back in '12.
12/27/2024
This has evolved and almost reached maturity since my last bottle (2021). Tannins are much more tame though still drying on the finish. Has a nice core of black fruits—still hints of primary freshness intertwined with leafy minty notes. Lengthy finish with repeating mint/eukalyptus notes ans austere tannins. Quite good now but could still use some time to fill in a perceived hollowness on the finish.
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