I do like that an increasing number of wineries are no longer using capsules, and also the Diam corks (haven’t yet had a TCA-tainted wine that had been corked with Diam).
Quickly.
I cut myself a couple times trying that. Now I take a sharp poring knife and take a slice from bottom to lip and peel the capsule off. Sometimes pieces of it stick but never a big deal to get off.
I’m with you, Kris, below the lip. I chuckled when above, about 1-2 years earlier, you said, “I don’t see how this is even debatable…” It’s debatable because it’s Otto.
Do you really have to ask?
Reading English from left to right isn’t just a matter of preference. English is written from left to right. It doesn’t make sense if you read it from right to left. That’s how it is different.
It doesn’t matter whether the capsule was cut above or below the lip. Still tastes the same. This is why your comparison wasn’t comparable.
Now, see, this was my point. I don’t understand why you have to state that “always below the lip” if your argument is “still tastes the same”.
It’s debatable because it’s an opinion or matter of preference, not a fact. I’m not dumb enough to argue against facts.
You’re not cut out for politics
I first try to pull off the capsule. If that doesn’t work, I generally cut up the side. Last resort is the traditional cut.
Those really thin, flimsy plastic ones do tend to just pull off. Done that plenty of times.
It’s not a preference, it’s the accepted and trained standard of service.
Again, no one is judging you at home or likely tipping you for your service, so who cares.
Arguing it’s not the standard is just flat wrong.
I believe nobody in this thread has said anything of the sort.
You’re the one posting pictures saying NOT HERE on the lip part. My take has been from the start that who cares? As long as the bottle gets opened, the technique doesn’t matter - especially at home or in tastings.
Even if cutting below the lip is the standard of service in restaurant, I couldn’t care less if a waiter, waitress or sommelier presented me with a bottle cut above the lip. Probably wouldn’t even notice. I wouldn’t even mind if they decided to cut the foil off completely, although I might raise my eyebrow a little bit just because I haven’t seen it before.
Now I’m going to start paying attention in restaurants
I either pull the entire capsule off, if it will pull off, or I slice it from bottom to the flange and then peel the whole thing off. I don’t care about the capsule at all. It’s not the label. If a restaurant did that for a wine I ordered off their menu, I wouldn’t give it a second thought.
I used to carefully cut foils off. Always above the lip because that is where my foil cutter cut them. But when I came to realize how wasteful foils are I started removing them as a form of personal protest. So now I pull them off as soon as I leave the cellar. If they don’t pull off I use the small tear and peel method. If they are held on with a collar of paper I’ll use something to cut it off or pull out the foil cutter.
At home, if “pull it off” does not work, I use “slice up the entire side and remove the capsule”. When taking a bottle to a restaurant at which I am not known, I use “traditional” to avoid getting condescending looks and/or remarks from servers.
Pull it off and cut it when that doesn’t work.
I never knew you can sometimes just pull them off, so I always cut with the little knife on the corkscrew. Gonna try pulling first going forward.
Ha ha I just yanked the capsule off 3 bottles and I feel like a champion!
Usage of cork as a closure is gratuitous pageantry – which I 100% support. There should be something special about opening a bottle of wine as it’s not a soda, a beer or any other mass produced beverage. That being said, I lean in to the pageantry fully and cut below the lip because that’s the “traditional” way to do it.
With wax capped bottles, I’ll drill through it and pick the wax away when the cork is ~50% out to avoid any falling in the bottle. If it’s old AND wax capped, I’ll cut the wax away at the top and use a Durand.
I always try to pull them off. Usually have to twist and pull. I’d say 30% will come off this way. If not, I just slice up the side and remove the whole capsule. I Never pull the foil cutter out. For wax, I just go right through. No prep needed