Gros Family Tree

WINE TALK
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To contribute to the expanding Burgundy knowledge over here, I offer the Gros Family Tree. I often find new Burgophiles get confused over A. Gros, A.-F. Gros, A&F Gros, etc. (myself included!) This family tree has helped me a lot. Now if someone can do the same for Gagnard and Colin (in separate threads), I’d be very grateful!

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In all sincerity thank you for this. Can you make it a real tree with limbs and leaves next time though please?

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I forgot to give credit and thanks, as this tree came from R. Thornton, G. Praesent and P. Muto – three very knowledgeable Burg lovers who I hope to see posting here and to whom I am very grateful for sharing their knowledge throughout the years.

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Nice. I assume the Francois Parent branch overlaps an adjacent tree?

RT

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Pretty sure I saw Robert post today or yesterday.

I spoke with Peter as were friends off line and I’m pretty sure he’ll come over here as well.

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I’m sure it does, but I don’t have it. If anyone wants to construct it, that would be great!

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Andrew Hall did a similar analysis over on CT about 4 years ago: The various Gros of Burgundy" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Anyone have some experience with A-F Gros wines. Winebid sells them direct, but I haven’t seem them in too many other places. Are they more traditional in style or modern?

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Now this is a Burgundy thread!!!

Next, do the Boillots, where there are two Louis Boillots (one married to Barthod and the other a cousin of Albert Boillot), a Jean Boillot and a Jean-Marc Boillot.

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Oh, there are so many! Morey, Mugneret, Rossignol, Bachelet, etc, etc.

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Just the other day, listened to the old GrapeRadio podcast of the World of Pinot seminar with Meadows and Michel Gros and Jean-Luc Pepin. During the first 15 minutes or so Allen does a nice job explaining the history of the Gros family and its branches. Poppy covered it above, but if you are more of an auditory learner…
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Always thought it odd that AF Gros sells via WineBid. Not that there is anything wrong with WineBid of AF Gros, just seems like strange bedfellows.

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Modern.

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Colin…don’t forget Colin!

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Poppy,
Nice work, and nice of you to give credit but it’s common knowledge, not like I tracked them all down.

Here’s the Boillots, although I may be missing some (hopefully Claude and others will correct my mistakes):

    1. Henri Boillot (old Domaine Henri Boillot)
    1. Lucien Boillot (Domaine Lucien Boillot)
    1. Louis Boillot (Dom. Louis Boillot, m. Ghislaine Barthod, Dom. Barthod)
  1. Pierre Boillot (took over Domaine Lucien Boillot, w/Louis for a while)
  2. Other sisters (I don’t know their names)
  3. Jean Boillot (Domaine Jean Boillot)
    1. Henri Boillot (took over Domaine Jean Boillot, now Dom. Henri Boillot)
  1. Jean-Marc Boillot (Domaine Jean-Marc Boillot)
  2. Jeannine (she married Gerard Boudot, Domaine Sauzet)

Now if someone can just straighten out the Colins and Moreys for me, I’ll be very happy, I still get confusted on them.

Cheers,
-Robert

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weird when we know as much about certain Burg family trees as we do about our own . . .
alan

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The Moreys of Chassagne are complicated enough that Pierre Morey, of Meursault, claims that he is related to them going back to the 18th C, when one of his Chassagne ancestors knocked up a Meursault wench and had to marry her and relocate to Meursault.

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Baptismal, marriage, property, and death records, all located in the same parish/commune. I don’t know about you, but my ancestors’ history 1) includes a lot of moving around and 2) was in part destroyed in a lot of wars.

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Oh my take on A-F Gros is good, but not something that is particularly up my stylistic alley. Once with a serious Burg group had a great '93 A-F Gros Richebourg that blind beat out '93 Meo and Leroy; everyone flipped over it. Had it again twice and wasn’t as great; good, but not the heights of Richebourg. And haven’t had great experiences with her other wines, althoug haven’t had them in recent vintages. So not a favorite producer of mine but decent wines. I generally think Anne Gros is much better, although those are pushing the oak envelope for me, but like Roty, seem to push it but stay on the right side of the line most of the time at the higher levels (for my tastes, however little that’s worth).

Cheers,
-Robert

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Funny you mention that, I’m really into genealogy, spending what free time I have working on what my grandmother started, which maybe explains a bit of my allure to Burg geekiness…

Cheers,
-Robert