I just purchased two Liberte glasses at k&l over the weekend and they both came out of the paper like the one on the right. The opacity went away after washing them but I thought it was a little weird also.
Just replaced a Grassl Cru I broke with a couple replacements, love how OR pinot noir and chardonnay shine with these glasses. Also picked up a decanter finally.
Anyone use the Liberte as a replacement for Zalto Universal? How do they compare?
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I use Liberte as a replacement for my broken Gabriel Glas Golds that are now very pricey and prefer both of them to Zalto Universal. Itâs splitting hairs a bit as all three are excellent all purpose glasses and great for many whites and Champagne.
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Really enjoy my Libertes and think they do a comparable job to Zalto Universals. Though I find the Zalto Universal to do better with champagne by a noticeable margin.
Mineralité is the best Grassl option for bubbles and Riesling.
Between my wife and I we use Grassl probably 6-7 times a week. Stems, Vyce Stemless and Vyce Rocks.
Never had the clouding issue. We normally run the Bosch dishwasher.
I use the tasting glass most often. I believe they now call it the Versatile. It is very similar in shape to Liberte and Gabriel but a touch sturdier in my hand. Itâs my go to weeknight glass. It is shorter than the higher end stems so it fits on the top rack of the Bosch better.
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I bought the MineralitĂ© awhile ago. While I agree about bubbles, I preferred the Zalto Universal for riesling. Havenât tried the Liberte yet.
Anybody have luck contacting CJF lately? I have some glasses due and have not been able to contact anyone for 2 weeks via email and phone. Thx
Sorry to hear that. @Chris_Freemott is usually pretty good about responding. Havenât interacted with him lately, but tagging him here so yâall can hopefully connect
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I experience the clouding thing when the glasses sit in the cupboard for an extended period of time without use; canât say theyâve ever gotten as cloudy as in your picture, though. A quick rinse and polish has always solved the problem in the moment.
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FYI, I did get a hold of Chris and the stemware should arrive today. Gracias.
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Just got an email from CJF Selections, and looks like Chris is having a pre-holiday special: six Vigneron Series Stems gets you a free Durand Opener.
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Iâve been wanting to get more of the Liberte glasses and Iâve been wanting a Durand. HmmâŠ
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Hello
Cloudy glass from the factory was a âthingâ. For those with this issue, reach out directly to me. Chris@cjfselections.com
The glass can be replaced. Start with that mindset.
The issue has been resolved. There was a mistake in the rinse bath with a decalcifying product not being added.
Glasses with this residue should be soaked in CLR overnight in a container. I use a strong solution, 1/4 cup CLR per gallon of water in a Cambro.
Then I rinse and run through my dishwasher. Iâve not had this approach fail. But, it doesnât mean we wonât stand behind the glass and swap for you, gratis.
Cheers
Chris
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What is CLR?
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I love my Grassl stems⊠Just saying.
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Thats good to know, I have a few glasses that are very cloudy and I was put off by it.
CLR is Calcium Lime And Rust. Itâs a brand name cleaner you can find at any grocery store or hardware store
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Kinda nasty stuff thatâs why Chris recommends dilution.
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