Giacomo Conterno Cascina Francia Vertical, with some other things

Some quick notes on a recent wine group tasting. Our hosts have been collecting Giacomo Conterno wines for quite a while (a good thing to remember…), and chose on this night to do a vertical of Cascina Francia Barbera, among other things.

I don’t have much experience with Giacomo Conterno Barbera, or in fact Piedmontese Barbera in general (aside from Sandrone, which back in the day was, well, what I could afford), so this was very instructive for me. Might as well start at the top, I suppose. The wines all had wonderful age-worthy acid/mineral structure, and a purity of fruit and herb notes. It was mentioned that sometime between the 2005 vintage and the 2008 vintage, the botti used for the barbera were all replaced with new botti, and in fact the wines after the 2005 in the tasting all had a “cleaner” (but not oakier) feel, not that the wines before seemed in any way dirty (except perhaps the 2005).

The Barberas were opened a couple of hours before, but not decanted.


1999 Cadence Spring Valley Vineyard–the starter wine, that I’ve already posted on. Our hosts made this wine, which is a right bank bordeaux blend that’s in a perfect place right now.

2003 G.Conterno Cascina Francia Barbera d’Alba–Bigger slightly riper wine, with a bit of roasted quality to the fruit. Still very nice, and not heading over the hill any time soon.

2004 G. Conterno Cascina Francia Barbera–Great fruit/acid balance and tension, sort of a sour cherry/lavender thing. Wonderful length as well. For me the WOTN amongst the Barbera.

2005 Cascina Francia Barbera–A little bit bigger, broader wine with less of the perfect tension that the 04 has. The wine is a bit off as well, initially. At first I thought it was mildly corked, but this was not born out. With air the wine improves, but I wonder if this is a manifestation of botti that needed to be retired.


2008 Cascina Francia Barbera–Much smoother, pure wine, with slightly riper cherry/berry fruit. Not quite the excitement of the 2004, though.

2009 Cascina Francia Barbera–Riper, hot year wine. No roasted quality, very pleasant, but not up to the 2004 or 2013.

2013 Cascina Francia Barbera–Very promising wine that seems to have it all. The only thing lacking over the 2004 for me is age.


1998 Giacomo Conterno Barolo ‘Monfortino’–Effing CORKED.

2001 Cantino del Pino Barbaresco ‘Ovello’–A quickly subbed wine pop and poured so that we would have something to drown our disappointment about the Monfortino with. Nicely mature, tannins resolved, fruit a little soft after the barberas (many of us wanted to sub in the 2004 barbera fruit).

1988 Disznoko Tokaji Aszu Essencia–Brought by the Hungarian contingent of our group. Wow–brownish gold color. Unctuous, viscous but not overly sweet. Dried apricots, dried raisins (repetitive I know), walnuts without the bitterness. Pretty wonderful.


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Thanks for the notes. The Cascina Francia Barbera really holds up over the long term.

Pity about the Monfortino. We feel your pain.

Yes, they do. But the allied question is–do they just hold up, or do they improve with age? Not sure that I know the answer.

Love those notes, thank you. I have a smattering of his barbera in the cellar from last two decades and have always been amazed how they absolutely improve over 10+ years yet retain their freshness while developing nuances. Not aware of any barbera like it being made.

Sorry to hear about the 98 Monty–that sucks–I also have a couple of those and sure hope that they don’t suffer that same fate!

1998 Giacomo Conterno Barolo ‘Monfortino’–Effing CORKED.

i gagged a little bit when i read that.

Had a bad run recently of 3 corked bottles of 2006 Cascina Francia Barbera. Good bottles over the last year have been showing beautifully.

To me the 2006 is not amongst the best wines. It has a rough tannic structure. I like the 2005 way more. And a pity you did not have the 2007. This is a fantastic wine. 15% alc. but you do not feel it. Balanced, harmonious, even elegant and very long.

In my experience, they never develop a lot of tertiary complexity, but they go someplace very nice in the good years. For me, it’s a bit akin to zinfandels that age: They change but don’t necessarily get more interesting.

Interesting takes. For me, I treat them more like a barolo than a barbera. Young I find them pretty unyielding and in need of bottle age. Anyways a singular barbera well worth owning

From what I could see in this tasting, this wine is a serious one that does seem to mellow and meld nicely with age, but I didn’t see it shifting into a higher gear like what I experience with nebbiolo or burgundy. It would be interesting to also compare other serious Barbera on Barolo terroir (maybe Vietti Scarrone. Don’t know what others are out there) to see what happens there with age. I find these Barberas quite interesting and worthwhile, but they still for me lack the addictive substances that they slip into Barolo, Barbaresco, and Burgundy (oh, and I suppose some Northern Rhone and a few Bordeaux).

Exactly.

It’s been a while since I had one, but the Aldo Conterno Conce Tre Pile barbera can mature in a similar way: mellowing nicely albeit without a lot of tertiary evolution. But I’ve had a couple of bottles with ~10 years age that were too shrill.

A 2004 Giuseppe Mascarello Codana at 12 years was nice, but not in the same league as the Francia.

Roberto Conterno picks quite late, so the wines are quite rich and (for barbera) somewhat lower in acid. I think that helps ensure that they age with grace.

Sorry but I see it the other way round. If you plan to produce an age worthy wine it is better to pick not too late ending with low acid. Acid and tannins are preservatives.