I think that VDP was always quite protective of the GG trademark, suing left and right, but at the end lost a big case in the court of law and now it is free for all. People in the trade will know better.
GG Gisela?
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Non VDP members produced GGs the last couple of years I think too?
I thought they still had to follow the ‘rules’ though.
Eg you can’t make a Cab Sauv Auslese GG from your back garden.
Doesn‘t Bernkasteler Ring have their own GG‘s?
I am just passing on what I just saw …
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Yes. I meant to say those outside of both. But I am probably wrong. It’s all a bit stupid.
Lars has written on this a few times.
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The term “Grosses Gewächs” cannot be trademarked and can be used by any producer. Both the VDP and Bernkasteler Ring have been using this term with their own GG logos for high-end dry wines from ostensibly top sites. The VDP has since registered a trademark for its GG logo and the name VDP.GROSSES GEWÄCHS. More recently, the new German wine law has regulated the term “Grosses Gewächs,” which has encouraged nonmembers to start labeling their top dry wines as such. In the past, some nonmembers would just indicate this verbally or on their price list.
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Lieser !
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Recently, I had a similar impression of the 2017 Leipold Landsknecht Spätlese Trocken in that it was relatively ordinary. In contrast, the 2021 Leipold Landsknecht Scheurebe Alte Reben was as good a dry Scheurebe that I’ve had from anyone in the past several years.
Schloss Lieser also produced a 2015 Pinot Noir, which, unlike the 2022, was labelled as such.
@Lars_Carlberg do you know if these are purchased grapes? I was fascinated to find much more Spätburgunder on my recent trip to the Mosel.
I don’t think so. Unfortunately, an image of the front label doesn’t indicate if it’s an estate-bottled wine. I‘d need to see the back label.
Based on Lyle’s social media it appears Suckling really liked Steinmetz’s '20s. fwiw
Just subtract a point or two for real scores 
The few Steinmetz I’ve had has been good 
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Big fan of his Rieslings- have not yet tried a Pinot
I like them very much. They don’t hit quite the highs as my favorite Mosel Pinots. Stefan brought some older ones (close to 20 years old) to the event I did in the Mosel that were stunning.
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Was looking forward to this one with 16years on it- got a few- unfortunately, what remained was a bitter, charred oak flavor that dominated the palate and just wasn’t much fun. Consistent with a couple problematic notes on CT
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Bummer. Wonder if it had to do with early attempts with screwcaps.
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My first thought as well. And too much oak that outlived the other elements? Lyle hyped it pretty good, maybe some bottle variation?
Full 23 Riesling/'22 Pinot Noir/Meunier/Syrah /'20 Pinot Noir crus offering coming out this week.
I tasted the 2020 Pinots w Stefan in early August.
Piggott’s reviews accurately capture their compact, dense, structural, and savory qualities.
I think that Mosel Fine Wines reviewed the 2020 Pinots, at 92 across the board. So a point or two less than the Easily Excitible One in question.
Fwiw, I adore his 2018 Pinot Noirs, of a delicacy, red fruited charm, and fluidity that is my favorite of his yet.
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Sven Enderle’s first set of releases was also reviewed by Mosel Fine Wines with very good impressions/scores.
People will be glad to taste them, delicious wines.
I called it on the Lemberger (Blaufrankisch); that stuff is bonkers yummy.
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Hmm. After having only one “J”, a 2014, I wonder if they are not for me. Here’s my review from last year:
I do have a 2017 Frühburgunder and another 2014 Spät in the cellar…
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