I don’t think the inclusion or not of non-owned fruit is an issue which should affect the decision to purchase at all.
Drouhin work extremely closely with their suppliers, insisting on exactly the same standards that they apply to their own fruit, which is why in recent years several notable bottlings have been discontinued.
In the case of the Bonnes Mares or Beze I wouldn’t worry either. But I’ve found some of their all negociant offerings to be mediocre in the past (e.g., Chambertin).
I sell Faiveley in the Ontario market and can only speak about them.
All their negociant bottlings are labeled Joseph Faiveley and all the wines that they own are labeled Domaine Faiveley.
As someone previously said, Faiveley bought quite a bit of land over the last few decades. Now I would consider them less of a negociant than what is perceive.
Dennis,
Jasper says he is working on the book. By the time he is done maybe bookstores will be open.
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Yes, lockdown is helping me catch up on the book, zooms notwithstanding.
These are the domaine figures which I currently have, but will verify them again before publication. Hectares rather than acres, and doesn’t differentiate between different members of the family owning individual plots. The definition of domaine is either ownership or ‘fermage’ (rental) which happens more often than you might think, where the ‘exploitant’ of the vineyard has it under contract from the owner, who may or may not be a family member.
Noe also that some wines may not be declared as domaine because they are a blend of a small holding (eg Clos de Beze) with purchased fruit
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Reds
Bonnes Mares Grand Cru 0.23
Chambertin Clos de Bèze Grand Cru 0.13
Clos de Vougeot Grand Cru 0.91
Corton Bressandes Grand Cru 0.26
Echézeaux Grand Cru 0.46
Grands Echézeaux Grand Cru 0.48
Griotte-Chambertin Grand Cru 0.53
Musigny Grand Cru 0.68
Beaune 1er Cru Clos des Mouches 6.80
Beaune 1er Cru Grèves 0.80
Beaune 1er Cru (various) 1.20
Chambolle-Musigny 1er Cru Les Amoureuses 0.60
Chambolle-Musigny 1er Cru 1.50
Nuits-St-Georges 1er Cru Procès 0.40
Volnay 1er Cru Clos des Chênes 0.30
Vosne-Romanée 1er Cru Petits Monts 0.40
Pommard Chanlins 0.40
Savigny-lès-Beaune Aux Fourneaux 0.80
Savigny-lès-Beaune Clos des Godeaux 1.60
Chorey-lès-Beaune 1.30
Côte de Beaune 3.60
Rully 2.00
Whites
Le Montrachet Grand Cru Marquis de Laguiche 2.10
Bâtard-Montrachet Grand Cru 0.10
Corton-Charlemagne Grand Cru 0.34
Beaune 1er Cru Clos des Mouches 6.80
Chassagne-Montrachet 1er Cru Morgeot Marquis de Laguiche 2.00
Meursault En Luraule 0.50
Côte de Beaune 3.60
Rully 1.20
Chablis
Chablis Grand Cru Les Clos 1.30
Chablis Grand Cru Bougros 0.40
Chablis Grand Cru Les Preuses 0.50
Chablis Grand Cru Vaudésir 1.50
Chablis 1er Cru Montmains 1.80
Chablis 1er Cru Sécher 1.50
Chablis 1er Cru Vaillons 2.10
Chablis 1er Cru (blend) 1.80
Chablis Moulin de Vaudon 27.30
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Reds
Chambertin-Clos de Bèze Grand Cru 1.29
Mazis-Chambertin Grand Cru 1.56
Latricières-Chambertin Grand Cru 1.21
Charmes-Chambertin Grand Cru 0.81
Clos de Vougeot Grand Cru 1.29
Musigny Grand Cru 0.12
Echézeaux En Orveaux Grand Cru 0.83
Corton Clos des Cortons Faiveley Grand Cru 2.77
Gevrey-Chambertin 1er Cru Combe aux Moines 1.20
Gevrey-Chambertin 1er Cru Les Cazetiers 4.06
Gevrey-Chambertin 1er Cru Champonnets 0.42
Gevrey-Chambertin 1er Cru Clos des Issarts 0.61
Gevrey-Chambertin 1er Cru Craipillot 0.14
Gevrey-Chambertin 1er Cru Lavaux-St-Jacques 0.99
Gevrey-Chambertin 1er Cru Petite Chapelle 0.17
Gevrey-Chambertin 1er Cru Les Perrières 0.10
Chambolle-Musigny 1er Cru Combe d’Orveau 0.26
Chambolle-Musigny 1er Cru Fuées 0.19
Nuits-St-Georges 1er Cru Les St-Georges 0.23
Nuits-St-Georges 1er Cru Aux Chaignots 0.73
Nuits-St-Georges 1er Cru Les Porêts St-Georges 1.69
Nuits-St-Georges 1er Cru Aux Vignerondes 0
Nuits-St-Georges 1er Cru Les Damodes 0.81
Beaune 1er Cru Clos de l’Ecu 2.37
Pommard 1er Cru Rugiens 0.50
Volnay 1er Cru Fremiets 0.74
Monthélie 1er Cru Les Duresses 0.38
Monthélie 1er Cru Les Champs Fulliot 0.28
Gevrey-Chambertin Les Marchais 1.08
Gevrey-Chambertin Clos Prieur 0.61
Gevrey-Chambertin La Justice 0.53
Gevrey-Chambertin Vieilles Vignes 7.60
Nuits-St-Georges Les Argillats 0.54
Nuits-St-Georges Les Lavieres 1.07
Nuits-St-Georges 3.46
Marsannay Les Echezeaux 0.91
Marsannay 1.83
Ladoix 0.67
Pommard Vaumuriens 0.19
Whites
Corton-Charlemagne Grand Cru 0.87
Bâtard-Montrachet Grand Cru 0.35
Bienvenues-Bâtard-Montrachet Grand Cru 0.51
Puligny-Montrachet 1er Cru Garenne 0.19
Puligny-Montrachet 1er Cru Les Referts 0.37
Puligny-Montrachet 1er Cru Champs-Gain 1.05
Puligny-Montrachet 0.48
Jasper Morris,
I am working on a book to be called ‘Health Tips from Rush’…why cigar smoking is actually good for you but only when you are drinking high end Scotch, Bourbon or Cognac.
I am hoping Trump will order a re opening of all bookstores, if only so I can buy your next book. I have them all.
Excellent info, thank you Jasper.
Looks like Faiveley has enough Cazetiers to make an interesting luxury cuvée.
Thank you for info Jasper!
That would be some exotic oak, I’m sure.
Jasper, thank you so much for the information. Needless to say, I’m eagerly awaiting the revision of your book!
Jasper, noticed one missing piece of the Faiveley jigsaw puzzle…
Domaine Chazan/Zibetti – (0.12 ha) (Domaine Faiveley in fermage)…from Winehog article
Faiveley does make an Amoureuses bottling. Presumably this is the source?
And Mel Knox, by the time Jasper finishes his book, there may not be physical bookstores anymore unless the quarantine is lifted soon!
Dennis,
Yes, Faiveley have indeed made a small bottling of Amoureuses for quite a while. It may depend on the nature of the agreement as to whether or not they can call it Domaine. They were not able to declare the Matrot Wittersheim holdings as domaine, when they had that contract, because the arrangement was for Faiveley to run the vineyards and then to buy the grapes.
Dennis
I am writing “ Health Tips from the White House” …it s being underwritten by Lysol so I am sure the bookstores will be open soon!