Do you buy wine to lay down?

to Billy Evans,

Thanks for your note, sorry for the delay in answering.

The 10 year old Bordeaux you bought could have suffered from any number of problems, but “upright on a retail shelf covered in a layer of dust” is almost a guarantee of bad wine. For any older wines, provenance is the very first thing to consider. Wine shops concerned about quality never leave fine wine standing upright.

As to why the wines were as bad as they were, here’s a partial list of possible reasons (there can be multiple reasons), starting with the (lack of) storage issues:

exposure to heat
exposure to light
drying cork allowing excessive air contact
excessive vibration in a high-traffic area

then:
poor terroir
poor viticulture
poor winemaking
poor cellar technique
technical issues with the actual bottling
poor vintage
too old (lesser Bordeaux, lesser vintage at 10 years)
too young (very high quality Bordeaux, very high quality vintage at 10 years)
brettanomyces
TCA (cork and/or cellar contamination)

And the list goes on.

The easiest prescription for buying wine to improve with age is to buy high quality red Bordeaux and/or California Cabernet on release, ship it during clement weather and forget about it for 5 - 50 years.

Dan Kravitz

Hi, Neal.

I don’t. The few young ones I have were all given to me as gifts.

Best,

N

I have had way too many friends have to put beautiful wines up for auction because they had to down-size their living space, went into assisted living, or died. I have always tried to buy a case from them from time to time because they are such great wines but they usually want full market price (and I don’t blame them for that but it is quite expensive. One mixed case of 2nd and third growth Bordeaux cost me $3000.

to Kent Fisher, et al

How good your palate will be at 65, or 75, or 85 is probably a subject that has not been studied scientifically. I’m currently studying it myself, but anecdotally, without any scientific controls.

I’m 68 years old. I’ve been blending wines for sale for almost 25 years and continue to do so. The scores my blends receive from wine writers have stayed consistent or improved, even taking ‘grade inflation’ into account. I believe the sensitivity of my palate has at least stayed the same over the past 3 decades, if not improved. I have known a number of people in their 80s whose palates remained keen (granted, most of these were people to whom wine was of great importance in their lives; experts and/or professionals).

I feel that the experience that comes with age is valuable, eventually to be offset by failure of memory. When I do blends now, I often know from talking to producers approximately what my blends will be before I even taste the tank samples. I know the terroirs of the different sites. I know from discussion before I arrive what the weather was. I know what to expect. Of course I get surprised regularly, but I am still increasingly able to walk into a tasting room with ~30 tank samples and be very confident that a few hours later ~5 of them will be the components of a commercially successful blend.

Lawrence Leichtman wrote “friends have to put beautiful wines up for auction because they had to down-size their living space, went into assisted living, or died.”

I guarantee you that they did not have put up beautiful wines because they died. That would have fallen to their heirs or executors.

Assisted living can include wine. I have several friends in assisted living who brought at least part of their cellars with them. The competent, compassionate and sensible places at least allow if not encourage their charges to have a glass (depending of course on physical and mental conditions).

Downsizing should normally not mean giving up wine. If you have a substantial cellar and are downsizing voluntarily, off-site storage is available in an increasing number of places. However if money is an issue for living space, it certainly is also an issue for wine.

At 68 I still enjoy my job and apparently am still able to do it. I have no plans to retire or to stop blending wines. I am cutting back gently on how much I drink, but that is simply prudence. I am getting the same amount of pleasure from greater appreciation of each of slightly fewer sips.

Dan Kravitz

This mainly depends on your age… I am not even 30 years old, and I already have a large number of wines I am not drinking until I am in my 40s, 50s…

What is this ‘lay down’? I buy wines for the drive home.