Deciphering Pierre Peters NV lot code

Recent purchase has L.CBSA 02 US on the label.

Any idea as to base vintage? 2002 seems to obvious.

TIA.

Peter - I think that is the current release but I am not sure it correlates to 2002. I have had it 2x and enjoyed both from that lot, IIRC.

I don’t think Brad got to the bottom of the current lot code system either.

So we kinda got to the bottom reviewing Brad’s post in the other thread. It is likely you have either a different bottling lot of the 06 base with some solera going on…or who knows. I really liked the old system better. Much easier.

Peter and Tony,

I’ve talked to Rodolphe about this and the explanation I got doesn’t make sense. I’m not sure if I am understanding wrong or what, but I still don’t have the key to this code. I’ll ask again, but with harvest going on, I’m not going to get an answer for a while. I can say that this code does mean you have a 2006 based NV, but I can’t tell you exactly how to decipher everything. I’ll keep trying as I want to know too.

Thanks guys - fwiw, the cork had: 04 08 imprinted on it.

Maybe disgorged in April 08, or just more useless data?

Peter,

Does your bottle have the new or older label on it?

I asked our Champagne buyer, Jim Duane about this. We found the same bottle with the same code in our cellar. According to Jim, everyone codes their bottles differently. The most important information is often left in a cryptic code, maybe not to give out the recipe for the “special sauce”, so to speak.

Here is info on the wine from the Terry Theise catalog:

Wine Information:
Disgorged 10/07, as is apparent from the almost invisible lot # on the front label. This cuvée is perhaps more vintage-sensitive than many others in this book, but Rudolph Peters explained to me they have been running a kind of modified “solera” since 1999—this is 65% 2005 and 35% last-year’s cuvée; it shows the classic white-flower flavor along with generous chalkiness and orange-blossom; palate is fluffy and extroverted, with the 2005-class apparent; salty and doughy, with a precise jasmine and chalk finish. It’s also much drier than this wine used to be; there were years it had 12 g.l. RS and this one has half that. As always, two-thirds Mesnil and one-third Cramant-Avize-Oger-Chouilly.

We are talking superb aromas: a riot of flowers, lobster and brioche. It’s unusually ripe, dynamic and powerful, and also quite settled-tasting, with a long deep clinging finish. As good as many others’ vintage wines, thanks in part, to a sensible 10 g.l. RS.


—Hope that helps!
V

Veronica,

The only problem is that Peters has moved on to the 06 based NV (though there is still a good amount of 05 based NV on the shelves and I can still find 04 and 02 based versions too) and Peters changed his lot coding this year (he also changed his labels, but both exist - from what I was told - for the current release). The code used to be much easier to decipher with a simple month and year of disgorgement. They now use numbers and letters that link not to a disgorgement date or base vintage in the blend, but a different starting point.

This is the older label for sure.

Anybody out there know the Pol Roger codeing system?

Opened a 6L last night for a charity event and I have no idea how old the bottle is.

NM - 276-001

How did it show?

No idea on the code, maybe Brad?

It showed well…slightly old…I have NO idea how old it was…but there was a faint hint of bubbles, didnt really get to watch it progress as I was the one pouring it out…and didnt get to keep some to the side (should have).

Michael,

The NM number is simply the producer’s registration (identifies Pol Roger as a negociant who can buy grapes) and doesn’t correlate to identifying what is in the bottle. Do you happen to have the lot number on the bottle? This would be printed somewhere on the bottle - normally in hard to read print.