De Negoce offer (Part 1)

[MatthewT]

Just went on the site and saw #37 viogner available. Grabbed a case immediately as I missed the offer and love viogner. Went back to the link and it was marked sold out again. Not sure if there was only one case and I grabbed the only one or if there were a few and people grabbed them. Either way kind of interesting and not the first time I’ve seen the odd offer appear back on the site for a short amount of time.

Well done on nabbing 37. I was looking for a second case of that one. If only there was some kind of app where people could look to get more or less of a specific offer, preferably with people within a bounded geographical area. I think there’s an opportunity to create something there.

i lol’d

[Rodrigo_B]

Just went on the site and saw #37 viogner available. Grabbed a case immediately as I missed the offer and love viogner. Went back to the link and it was marked sold out again. Not sure if there was only one case and I grabbed the only one or if there were a few and people grabbed them. Either way kind of interesting and not the first time I’ve seen the odd offer appear back on the site for a short amount of time.

Well done on nabbing 37. I was looking for a second case of that one. If only there was some kind of app where people could look to get more or less of a specific offer, preferably with people within a bounded geographical area. I think there’s an opportunity to create something there.

Thanks! Was super excited to be able to grab it. Don’t think I’ll be sharing this one.

Moral of the story: emails are nice, but checking out the dN website sometimes works out better.

[Jonah_P]

Just went on the site and saw #37 viogner available. Grabbed a case immediately as I missed the offer and love viogner. Went back to the link and it was marked sold out again. Not sure if there was only one case and I grabbed the only one or if there were a few and people grabbed them. Either way kind of interesting and not the first time I’ve seen the odd offer appear back on the site for a short amount of time.

Well done on nabbing 37. I was looking for a second case of that one. If only there was some kind of app where people could look to get more or less of a specific offer, preferably with people within a bounded geographical area. I think there’s an opportunity to create something there.

i lol’d

I’m not a hater though, I signed up today. Clearly I’m starved for social contact or I wouldn’t be checking this site so much. Maybe a DFW DN fanclub will take root. I’m not sure if I’m looking to fill out my missing lots or unload some of what I overbought. We’ll see.

[MatthewT]

Well done on nabbing 37. I was looking for a second case of that one. If only there was some kind of app where people could look to get more or less of a specific offer, preferably with people within a bounded geographical area. I think there’s an opportunity to create something there.

i lol’d

I’m not a hater though, I signed up today. Clearly I’m starved for social contact or I wouldn’t be checking this site so much. Maybe a DFW DN fanclub will take root. I’m not sure if I’m looking to fill out my missing lots or unload some of what I overbought. We’ll see.

I think his website/idea is a great for all the reasons he mentioned. I never intended to “hate” on it.

[Nick_F]

Did we ever make a guess at 13? Its the only producer guess I am missing on my spreadsheet

[Chris_Crutchfield]

MatthewT is a hater because he don’t split cases. DeNegoce is like pokemon, gotta catch em all

[Rodrigo_B]

Did we ever make a guess at 13? Its the only producer guess I am missing on my spreadsheet

That’s far more complete than the one I looked at previously that was floating around the thread. Would you mind sharing it?

[Rodrigo_B]

MatthewT is a hater because he don’t split cases. DeNegoce is like pokemon, gotta catch em all

He’s trying to get to a full pallet before everything ships out in a few weeks

[David_Buck]

David,
Mount Veeder Cabs: 8 years from vintage date to enjoy the wine without burly tannins are typical. As Cam said, barrel samples needed 5 days to unwind for tasting notes.

Thanks…sure wish Cam would post drinking windows on each offer. He kinda says it sometimes. Like how Claudine does it:

**Wine Stats
\

• Production: 99 cases
• Blend: 92% Cabernet Sauvignon, 8% Merlot
• AVA: Coombsville, Napa Valley
• ABV: 14.6%
• Drinking window: This wine will evolved in the bottle beautifully for 15+ years, but it spectacular right now!
• Comparable Price: $125**

[MatthewT]

MatthewT is a hater because he don’t split cases. DeNegoce is like pokemon, gotta catch em all

I’d be interested in 3 of some lots. But not 6. If I want 6, I want 12! or 24!

I’d prob have done 3 each of the last two and not 12. But it is what it is.

[MatthewT]

Did we ever make a guess at 13? Its the only producer guess I am missing on my spreadsheet

No, too hard.

[Timothy_B_a_l_l_a_r_d]

#13: Clue was a vineyard behind Darioush and his lamenting Matthew and myself gobbling up OG11 quickly:

Wow. That went quickly.

I thought it might and have cued up another release. A terrific Napa hillside Cabernet for $13/bottle. Please choose an option below to read more.

If you were able to grab a case of the OG N.11 I am sure the list (and myself) would appreciate you holding off on this one.

[Andreas_Birnik]

I also picked up OG 59 & OG 60 for Singapore. We now have over 200 cases of wine waiting to be put on a reefer from the Port of Oakland to Singapore. 95 of these cases are from de Négoce as we also have wine from Claudine, Wine Access and wine purchased directly from wineries in California at special promotional rates for our wine club.

Do you need a Exporter/Importer licenses to ship 200 cases to Singapore?

@mattcitrang - Yes, you do need a license to import alcohol wholesale. I imagine it is the same in many countries. One of the members of our club runs a logistics company so he receives the pallets of wine, completes the import papers, pays local sales tax, alcohol excise duty and then does last mile delivery. He has the license as he has been doing this for years for supermarket chains, wine shops, hotels and embassies. For direct-to-consumer wine orders, you don’t need a license. I’ve been importing California wines for years through Gliding Eagle. And I regularly import from France, Australia and New Zealand. All of that works well for expensive wine. Our challenge came with de Négoce as the charges with Gliding Eagle is USD 35 per bottle of wine in the de Négoce price range. Lots of my friends, and their friends, wanted to join the private label party but it was a real barrier to buy de Négoce bottles for USD 9-20 and then have to pay USD 35 per bottle on top. This pushed us to bring in the private label wine through an air-conditioned “reefer” container at a much lower rate per bottle. But it still becomes much more expensive than for you guys as we have the logistics charges to Singapore + last mile delivery, USD 7 per bottle alcohol excise duty and another 7% Singapore sales tax. Though we are effectively locked into this tiny island because if you leave, you have to spend two weeks in a quarantine hotel upon return, and pass two negative Covid-19 tests, before they let you back into society. So people haven’t spent any money on holidays this year and these private label deals are a fun way for people to mentally escape this “Alcatraz” island prison and dream away to California wine country.

[Andreas_Birnik]

I also picked up OG 59 & OG 60 for Singapore. We now have over 200 cases of wine waiting to be put on a reefer from the Port of Oakland to Singapore. 95 of these cases are from de Négoce as we also have wine from Claudine, Wine Access and wine purchased directly from wineries in California at special promotional rates for our wine club.

Do you need a Exporter/Importer licenses to ship 200 cases to Singapore?

THREE WORDS:

OFFSHORE
CARGO
TANKER

Funny @Matthew T - one of our wine club members is from a Norwegian shipping industry family that operates a fleet of Suezmax, very large crude carriers and ultra large crude carriers. If we ever get to that scale, I’ll ask him how we can up our game. For now, we are happy with a single airconditioned reefer container and some tasting events. We’ve airlifted 7 of the Claudine wines into Singapore, 5 of the de Négoce wines plus 4 shiners that have been offered to our club to see if we want them. Excited about putting on a series of small group tasting events on Oct 2 & 3 to try all of these wines together with friends.

[J_Patrick_Lynch]

We’ve airlifted 7 of the Claudine wines into Singapore, 5 of the de Négoce wines plus 4 shiners that have been offered to our club to see if we want them.

I figure this is a lost-in-translation thing, but just say shipped or air freight. This isn’t a military operation.

[rsmithjr]

Camerons lot 611 from 2015 was from sleeping lady. It is a tight wine!!

[Nate_Simon]

We’ve airlifted 7 of the Claudine wines into Singapore, 5 of the de Négoce wines plus 4 shiners that have been offered to our club to see if we want them.

I figure this is a lost-in-translation thing, but just say shipped or air freight. This isn’t a military operation.

I actually have a wealthy friend who is going to land his private helicopter at Claudine.

[Eric_Michels]

I actually have a wealthy friend who is going to land his private helicopter at Claudine.

Nicely played.

[MatthewT]

This article will be very interesting around here, too busy to post highlights. Lots of reviews of future wines.

Cameron Hughes is At It Again : Vinography

Most interesting is Cam didn’t really let him try any Cabs besides #2 and #42 (I think) that are expensive. #17 and #43 are not.

But he has let a few journalists drink #2 so I wonder if he has a lot more of that stashed away…

[Rodrigo_B]

This article will be very interesting around here, too busy to post highlights. Lots of reviews of future wines.

https://www.vinography.com/2020/09/cameron-hughes-is-at-it-again

Most interesting is Cam didn’t really let him try any Cabs besides #2 and #42 (I think) that are expensive. #17 and #43 are not.

But he has let a few journalists drink #2 so I wonder if he has a lot more of that stashed away…

Great article. Thanks for sharing Matt. Excited to see the Oregon mixed case that Alder mentioned. Looking forward to that one. Might have to buy four cases of that offer when it comes