De Negoce offer (Part 1)

Not just saying this cause I could buy but what do you want him to do? He had under 100 cases of one of them. Either he doesn’t bother sourcing it or he sells it to everyone and it sells out in 2 minutes. I think smart for his business to reward the top 200 in this scenario. No idea why it should have any weighting on whether you buy a future lot or not but to each their own.

Do you need a Exporter/Importer licenses to ship 200 cases to Singapore?

THREE WORDS:

OFFSHORE
CARGO
TANKER

I wouldn’t have purchased either of those wines, in full disclosure, but I can see the perspective of people who feel it goes against the entire egalitarian ethos of the venture. deNegoce is about making exclusive wines available to people who might not otherwise purchase them. A lot of the excitement comes from being able to snap something up after the email goes out if the wine really interests you. Creating a more exclusive sub-list of valuable customers or “big spenders” could alienate the rest of the customer base who bought into the “equal opportunity” premise. It pushes the venture from egalitarian back into exclusive. Though, admittedly, the risk of that happening is small because most people on the list won’t even realize the offers went out.

At any rate, I can see it both ways.

Yah, you don’t have to explain why people would be pissed off. I of course get it. I was just presenting his 3 options: Don’t source small lots, offer them to everyone and have mass disappointment, or do it this way.

Thus far, what I’ve learned about people at Wine Berserkers is this:

Spamming your referral links in every thread? A-OK
Building a site to help people in this forum solve a problem? “Self-promotional”

Interesting. I’m in for 12 cases so far as I’m sharing with other people. I did not get the email.

I’m probably out too. I’ve only bought 4 cases. But, I always thought I had a chance to get that ‘special’ offer. Now the special offers go to a select few. I do not want the inferior deals.

That is NOT what is happening. It’s just the very small lots. #40, #42, were outstanding deals and probably better values than both of these.

I think it fits the bill better than Sterling. Only issue I can see is that the Mt Veeder wine was only produced in 2015? I don’t see any info on other vintages.

You either alienate a few people who have spent less money by doing the VIP or alienate a few people who have spent more money by releasing small lots to everyone. I think it’s pretty clear who anyone running a business would choose.

That being said, he might still release a tranche to everyone like he did with the hillside vineyard cabs.

The 2015 only debuted in October last year and I don’t see any Mt. Veeder releases on their website. But we know it exists…

Yeah as someone who didn’t get the email (I’ve bought 10 cases) I really couldn’t care less. I actually saw the deals in time bc of this thread but passed bc of price point / not enough detail and trying to limit purchases. I don’t think these deals were better than several of the others, as MatthewT said.

On a separate topic, has anyone tried to get their stuff shipped before Oct 12? Weather seems fine for it on east coast, I’m inclined to ask for them to ship now if possible

What promotion is Andres gaining with the case splitter app?

Just you wait until the Case Splitter IPO. Then you’ll see what a mistake we’ve made by allowing this to happen

This thread continues to not disappoint.

There aren’t many vineyards above 2000 ft on mount veeder as far as I can see, so this has to be on a pretty short list (if that’s where they’re sourcing, doesn’t look like they have property in the AVA). The sleeping lady certainly fits.

I understand if he only has a small quantity of some wines. Then throw it out there and let people buy it, first-come basis.

I am happy to announce the debut of my new service, Bottle Splitter.
It’s very simple. Sign up for the list, and I will drink part of a De Negoce bottle, and ship you the remainder. You only pay for what you get, at cost, on a per-milliliter basis, plus shipping!

Inferior deals to what? Retail Prices of wines that weren’t going to be released to begin with?

I don’t really see a problem with offering the lower quantity items to a select list. It could be a “better” product but the definition of “better” varies between people. I think this just get’s eyes on the product that has shown the historic propensity to purchase vs having it be on the website and have 5,000 pair of eyes try to purchase 100 cases.