Is someone able to post the email text for N.59/N.60? I picked up a case each through the site, but would be interested in what additional info, if any, was provided to the VIPs.
I think the first couple Washington wines will be the next great deals. Until those are released, I will hold off on buying. I’m 9 cases in and that’s enough until the Washington wines. I think we will see a $180 for $15 or something close with those first Washington offers.
Not too many Washington wines that go for $180+
Not too many Napa wines that are really worth $180 in comparison to world values either.
Rimmerman has bottled a number of WA Cabs and blends under the Piers label that perform at 2x to4x the price for the quality. I say that as someone who is skeptical of the Garagiste hype, and as someone who has experience tasting thousands of WA Cab and blends over the years.
One thing that is noticeable tasting a large array of Washington wines from either Walla Walla, or Red Mountain, is that there is not much variation in flavor profile from one wine to another. If I had unlimited access and resources, I’d prefer to make my own blend than to take any random wine.
Not debating value, just commenting on retail price.
Looks like I didn’t get the email offer as well. Don’t think I would have pulled the trigger regardless
I have always been skeptical of the Rimmerman hype, which hasn’t stopped me from spending a lot of money with him. I have to say, I’ve had very few real misses even on the mysteries, but nothing has topped the Piers releases for value.
Not getting an email definitely saved me $300 on n.60. Can someone please share the email content now that the wines are sold out?
It was an all hype no additional hard facts email. Perfection in prose but no ABV or new oak % info.
Cant post because, first rule of fight club is, you don’t talk about fight club
Would figure that case amount and money amount figured into Cam’s Top 200 email list- meaning you can buy a boat load of OG1 at $10, but dollars purchased vs buying higher end OG lots (higher $ amount) made you on Cam’s preferred customer list. Was preferred customer for Hillsides collection and these 59 & 60 lots, split some with friends and family. Again, Thank You Cam for honoring continued customers.
OG N.60 Yountville District Cabernet Sauvignon 12-bottle case SHIPS LATE OCTOBER
Price$300.00
Also on offer is a 2018 Yountville Cabernet Sauvignon sourced from the legendary Sleeping Lady Vineyards. Dark in the glass, it leaves a brilliant, electric purple stain as you swirl. The oak is much more prominent on the nose here showing lots of mocha but acacia flower, lavender, dark black cherry and graphite are peeking around the corner. With air, lush plum and cassis join the chorus. Rich and explosive on the palate with energetic fruit and silky tannins fanning out across your palate. Booyah.
OG N.59 2018 Mt. Veeder Cabernet Sauvignon 12-bottle case SHIPS LATE OCTOBER
Price$300.00
Sourced from a vineyard high on Mt. Veeder, over 2,000 feet above sea level. Dark and inky in the glass. The aromas are densely packed and brooding at this stage, pulling you down into the glass and showing lovely and pure cassis and crushed red rock aromas as well as perfect oak integration. But clearly this still just a baby. The palate is surprising voluptuous on entry but also powerful with a big ball of chewy tannins meeting you at mid-stride. Swaddled in baby fat she is, but this will be stunning wine in a few years. Its all there.
Unfortunate that DN seems to be playing the allocation game. I’m probably out for the foreseeable future.
These days are gone…no buyers remorse here:
Cakebread Estate Cab 2017 IMO. great bargain. Matthew $13 = $75??
OG N.06 2017 Napa Valley Cabernet Sauvignon 12-bottle case
Price$156.00
Lively and expressive, our latest offering delivers layered aromas of black cherry, baking spices and seasoned French oak framing ripe plum and blackberry. The aromatic layers compliment the alluring mouthfeel, with a seamless mid palate that balances depth and elegance in equal measure. Sumptuous and racy, its finishes long with sexy red and black fruit riding a wave of beautifully integrated tannins.
With a seriously pedigreed winemaking team and primary sub-AVA’s of Oakville and Rutherford, even at $70+ at the winery this is one of Napa Valley’s better Cabernet bargains. At $156/case or $13/bottle, it is a stunning value.
97% Cabernet Sauvignon, 2% Cabernet Franc, 1% Petite Verdot
40% new French oak (est.)
14.6% alc.
I also picked up OG 59 & OG 60 for Singapore. We now have over 200 cases of wine waiting to be put on a reefer from the Port of Oakland to Singapore. 95 of these cases are from de Négoce as we also have wine from Claudine, Wine Access and wine purchased directly from wineries in California at special promotional rates for our wine club.
So far, I have tried OG N.05, OG N.06, OG N.08, OG. N.13 and OG N.17 based on airlifting them to Singapore with Gliding Eagle Wine DTC. Of the five wines I have tried, I think OG N.17 drinks the best now but it is still a baby. My leading theory for this is that this is a wine with “only” 25% new oak, which is less than the others, so that the wine needs less time to integrate. I think a lot of people will commit infanticide attempting to drink these private label Cabernet Sauvignon wines far too early. For a business lunch earlier today, we had a 2012 Screaming Eagle Second Flight, a 1998 Bryant Family Vineyard and a 1994 Caymus Vineyards Special Selection. Quality Napa Valley wines hold the potential to become amazing with age but are often not very approachable straight out of the barrel into the bottle. I wonder how many will have the patience to give these private label wines the time that they need to develop?
I have read your comments about Case Splitter
http://www.casesplitter.com/start-sharing-case
There are now Case Splitter users in 19 US states + Washington DC so this clearly fills a need in America much like it has done in Singapore. To many, it is a lot to make blind buys of 12 bottles of wine. For some it is a lot of money. For others an issue of lack of storage. And many fear trying the first bottle, not liking it, and being stuck with another 11 bottles. Taken together, there is clearly a case to facilitate for people in their local communities to come together and share cases of wine. On a personal level, I like playing a role here as there is much polarization in today’s society and I have post Covid-19 images in my head of people arranging informal private label wine tastings, laughing and just having a good time together after a rough year in so many ways.
To this end, we have built a “lasso your local area” functionality to enable registered users to send out “proximity e-mails” to other registered users with a simple distance slider in the web app.
http://www.casesplitter.com/send-email/create
This enables user to send out e-mails like the below:
• I’d like to find people in my area to purchase future de Négoce cases together with. My preference is Cabernet Sauvignon and other full-bodied wines.
• I have bought a case of OG 40 and I’m happy to sell 6 bottles for USD X.
• I bought a case of OG 60 and would like to swap 6 bottles with someone who bought OG 59.
• I’m arranging a backyard wine tasting BBQ on Sunday at 5 PM at my place at X. This is potluck so bring a side dish, some meat to BBQ and a bottle of private label wine to share.
• Anyone wants to get together tonight at 7 PM to try some private label wines? Each person brings a bottle and we meet up at X.
I have received a lot of messages of appreciation from people who are very happy with Case Splitter. Quite a few of them have ordered too many cases of wine and they still want to keep ordering more for variety. So they are looking to offload a portion of what they have already ordered so that they can keep ordering new wine to try. And for some, the “buy by the case” ordering model has been a real barrier and Case Splitter allows them to get into the game for the first time and they are thrilled to be part of this adventure together with you. From looking at the names in the discussion forum, it is clear that the people posting in this thread are just the tip of the iceberg. Many more are monitoring this thread and signing up on Case Splitter without having made any posts from what I can tell.
I plan to keep posting in this thread from time to time so please just ignore my posts rather than get annoyed. In my mind, life is too short to get annoyed over online posts meant to help people to come together to share cases of wine. As MatthewT has written, there are many gems in the past 90 pages of posts but I realize that most new readers will probably not have the patience or interest to go through them all so there is merit in making new posts from time to time to alert new readers.
If there is interest, I’d be happy to post elsewhere as well, or to start a new thread if someone PMs me with suggestions. Just that you generally need to find the audience where they are landing anyway from their internet searches. That’s why Airbnb did cross-platform backlinks on Craigslist and Netflix did the same in movie discussion groups for specific movies being discussed that you could mail order DVDs for on Netflix back in the days when Netflix started as a DVD mail order service.
For now, we have lonely users near Detroit, New Orleans, Tucson, Santa Barbara, Chicago, Minneapolis, Richmond (Virginia), Gerrardstown (West Virginia) and in Vermont. Appreciate your help to find people for them to split cases with so that they can join the party and have fun.
Given the game, you either trust Cam that it is good/great/amazing qpr regardless of the exact winery and that is all you need to buy or the details like % oak, 14 vs 16% abv, etc. matter. This bulk negociant model is interesting, but is essentially saying the only thing that matters is the grapes, anyone can make a great wine with access to this juice. I would be interested in Larry S./other winemaker’s take on this.
I am not bothered by the posts in the dNG thread but if I were you, I would start a dedicated Case Splitter thread. That would allow you to reach a broader audience and if there is indeed a large interest for this, it could take on a life of its own (you just need to find or create your version of MathewT).
Personally, I’m not interested in reading Andreas’s self-promotional posts in this thread and i think he would find a wider and more appreciative audience if he started a new dedicated thread to promote his venture.
But the easiest solution was just to add Andreas to my “foes” list. Now all his posts are hidden.
So for 59/60, how about Nicholson Jones?
They have both a Sleeping Lady and Mt. Veeder offering and the price seems in the wheelhouse but I’ve seen above and below $150 on offer.
Mt Veeder is over 2,000ft (clearly not the 22,000 in the article):
Looks to be a collaboration between a winemaker and owner:
https://nicholsonjones.com/about-us
Nicholson Jones is a producer of California-style wines with a traditional French approach. Proprietor Cal Nicholson launched the brand with its first vintage in 2003. Nicholson Jones’ portfolio includes single-vineyard and appellation Cabernet Sauvignons and Chardonnays, in addition to Sauvignon Blanc and Syrah all made by Julien Fayard.
It’s MatthewT, thank you very much