At the beginning I thought they are either with Claire Naudin or Doudet Naudin, kind of ruled out that after some google search.
I can’t find their website. yet they are for sale as one of the biggest selections in this years Costco (white, nuits-st-georges 1er, corton grand cru) for the burgundy section. Are they actually a Chateau or a négociants?
How do you all think about them? Anyone with experience?
I used to import some wines from Doudet - Naudin. Ownership changed and I stopped importing.
I believe from this thread that ownership may have changed again; the new owner I met ~10 years ago was not Christophe Rochet.
My guess is that this is a label created specifically for Costco and that it is not on their website because the current ownership does not want to be associated with wines being sold at lower prices.
It looks like the negociant stuff can be found in wine shops all over the world. I also found a page from Carrefour too. That snip above is the only thing I could find linking Naudin to any other entity.
thanks that makes a lot of sense, with the brand reputation of Costco, it is comparable to how Kirkland signature series label works, but the French insisted to keep their our brand, in return they can sell it to retailers like Carrefour and in other countries.
That being said, glad to confirm it is Doudet Naudin behind this bottle.
I tasted it last night. Very smooth, fresh, with hints of wood and oak, tanin is silky already, indeed a young burgundy, very well structured and balanced. Good potential.
Compared with a 2015 Chambolle Musigny 1er from Pousse dOr, and a Dugat-py Gevery Chambertin coeur du Roy 2005. This Naudin Corton held up pretty well.
Right, seems to be like that. Doudet-Naudin was also located in Savigny (afaic) … produced very structured ageworthy wines in the 50ies/60ies (I still have 2 or 3 bottles drinking very well, the domaine bottles) - also a 1976 Corton … but In the 90ies wines were kind of meagre, didn’t buy them anymore.
A Doudet-Naudin Pinot Noir from the Languedoc a couple of years ago was memorably revolting.
It’s a house with a long history which historically prized richness and density far above everything else. Old bottles have lasted brilliantly but demonstrate just how much our perceptions of Burgundy have changed.
When I briefly sold their wines, quite a few of the reds were deft and subtle, and the whites were surprisingly good. I think the wines from their own vineyards were made more gently.
Just out of curiosity, I opened one bottle. Very typical modern burgundy, light, open, elegant and gentle, I bet a lot of people will love it even if they drink now. back to the costco to grab a case
When I was importing some of the wines, what stood out were Estate wines:
Pernand 1er Cru ‘Sous Fretille’
Savigny 1er Cru ‘Redescul’
Both consistently really fine.
They had a library of back vintages of the Redescul, I think they opened something ~20 years old that was really good.
I kept for myself a case of their Estate 2009 Corton Charlemagne. This was sullen and I held back. Fortunately I brought my last bottle to the incredible lunch Sarah Kirschbaum put on to showcase her last bottle of 1960 Gemello Csbernet and that bottle of Corton Charlemagne was showing beautifully.
There was a good (not great) negociant Chassagne, IIRC also 2009.