Uh oh….
Not sure if I am reading the article correctly, but it seems as though that was a bit out of their hands?
Come on. Competing legal claims are neither refuted nor established by statements in newspaper articles or social media posts. We have laws and equitable principles, the application of that law to the facts by real evidence under burdens of proof, subject to judge or jury determination, and a system in which claims and counterclaims need not be mutually exclusive. I have no idea what all the real facts are in the financial dispute here, but they certainly aren’t laid out in a handful of quotes by interested parties.
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I don’t disagree with a single thing you said, I was just pointing out the he said/she said stuff that seems to be going on. My post not meant as an attack on you at all. I was merely continuing the conversation. I actually thought about not replying to your post with that.
Your post got me wondering though- what on earth could have happened where a tenant is supposedly owed $1+ million by the landlord? We obviously don’t know, but certainly curious if true.
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Could be tenant improvements, free rent triggered by something they or the landlord did, a few other less likely possibilities.
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All good. Just wanted to point out that I’m sure all these people are making self interested public statements and who knows what the actual legal liabilities, if any, will be. Wouldn’t take any of it at face value. No idea on the CWS claim.
Certainly CWS is a place I lost trust in 7 years ago, and my view is the latest events are just a further indication people still storing there can do better. I met a couple just last night that physically went to the storage location recently and finagled having their boxes found and handed to them.
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No idea here either. Just pointing out some possible complications
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Wasn’t completely directed at you either, just making a question that came to mind while reading. I’m not a lawyer, hoping one can explain!
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Yikes.
Sadly, my first grumblings of them dates back to 2011-2013. Client/friend had wine there, paid on time all the time, and they pulled the BS with selling his wine at retail. He sued and won. Worst part is that it wasn’t a lot of wine, so what was the benefit of doing it?
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And if your timeline is correct it’s way before the new owner took over.
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I just received a phone call from a gentleman named Michael Kaplan (ph. 917-865-2348), who writes for the NY Post. He is looking into Chelsea Wine Storage and Sherry Lehman. I was not able to give him any meaningful information because of ethical/confidentiality concerns, but I agreed to post his name and phone number here. He would like to talk to anyone who has wine that they cannot access at either location or who has had issues with either company in the past. If you have had such problems, you may reach him at the phone number above.
I caution people, however, that the guiding principle is, to quote Jack Webb, “Just the Facts, Ma’Am.” There is already too much rumor, innuendo, hearsay and incorrect legal analysis in this thread. That is very dangerous.
Slander “per se” is any false statement that is harmful about someone’s business, trade, or profession. What does “per se” mean? It means that a “victim” of the slander does not have to prove damages to have a valid claim. If you make a false statement about someone’s business, that person does not have to prove that they were damaged by the falsity. They are presumed to have been damaged when you say bad things about their business if the things you say are false.
If you have real verifiable facts about Chelsea Wine Storage or Sherry Lehman, you may want to talk to Mr. Kaplan. That is entirely up to you. However, please don’t call him just to rant or to pass on unproven allegations that you heard on the street, or from another Berserker.
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have you ever read the Post?
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Truth is, we don’t know what’s going on at all! I think that is what is really spooking everyone.
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That may be fair, but we definitively know what’s happened in the past.
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Yahoo? Yelp?
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Isn’t it the reporter’s job to separate facts from innuendo or false statements? Wouldn’t (even) the NY Post have an interest in not committing libel?
Your question assumes that the NY Post is a news organization…
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it’s barely an organization. two different reporters are covering the same story and they weren’t aware of each other.
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“trendy lounge”
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